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	<title>Comments on: 2012 Talking Points In Action: Obama Equals Surrender</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/26/2012-talking-points-in-action-obama-equals-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-421317</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I hate to break it to you, but tyrants are global actors.  Just because I think that most republicans are morons doesn&#039;t mean that I don&#039;t acknowledge the impact they have on the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I hate to break it to you, but tyrants are global actors.  Just because I think that most republicans are morons doesn&#8217;t mean that I don&#8217;t acknowledge the impact they have on the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/26/2012-talking-points-in-action-obama-equals-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-421312</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Which mistakes were not acknowledged?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, I don&#039;t know, maybe BUSH&#039;S ENTIRE FOREIGN POLICY STRATEGY.

So it&#039;s not just screwing up the Iraq war. It&#039;s a utter lack of realization that we are &lt;i&gt;part&lt;/i&gt; of the global community, we don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;run&lt;/i&gt; the global community. 

See, Bush thinks our power and authority is pretty much absolute. Well, it isn&#039;t. And the easiest way for us to lose it is to go around trying to spread freedom on borrowed money, thereby bankrupting us to the point where we can&#039;t maintain our military budgets without falling massively into debt. 

Seriously, you can&#039;t see where that strategy leads? 

Now, if you really ARE favor of American exceptionalism, you&#039;d do well to abandon Bush&#039;s tactics in favor of something more reasonable and workable. Because that exceptionalism isn&#039;t just a military strategy...it&#039;s the idea that America stands for everything that&#039;s good and just..and that idea extends far beyond our military might. In fact, our military might is probably the worst instrument for spreading the idea of freedom because we end up killing tens of thousands of innocent people when going after the bad guys.

And as far as compromising with &quot;tyrants&quot;...didn&#039;t Nixon meet with Mao? Didn&#039;t Reagan meet with Gorbachev? Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Which mistakes were not acknowledged?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t know, maybe BUSH&#8217;S ENTIRE FOREIGN POLICY STRATEGY.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not just screwing up the Iraq war. It&#8217;s a utter lack of realization that we are <i>part</i> of the global community, we don&#8217;t <i>run</i> the global community. </p>
<p>See, Bush thinks our power and authority is pretty much absolute. Well, it isn&#8217;t. And the easiest way for us to lose it is to go around trying to spread freedom on borrowed money, thereby bankrupting us to the point where we can&#8217;t maintain our military budgets without falling massively into debt. </p>
<p>Seriously, you can&#8217;t see where that strategy leads? </p>
<p>Now, if you really ARE favor of American exceptionalism, you&#8217;d do well to abandon Bush&#8217;s tactics in favor of something more reasonable and workable. Because that exceptionalism isn&#8217;t just a military strategy&#8230;it&#8217;s the idea that America stands for everything that&#8217;s good and just..and that idea extends far beyond our military might. In fact, our military might is probably the worst instrument for spreading the idea of freedom because we end up killing tens of thousands of innocent people when going after the bad guys.</p>
<p>And as far as compromising with &#8220;tyrants&#8221;&#8230;didn&#8217;t Nixon meet with Mao? Didn&#8217;t Reagan meet with Gorbachev? Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/26/2012-talking-points-in-action-obama-equals-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-421298</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for a good laugh Jimmy. Shall I present a list of the mistakes the administration has made for the past 8 years that have not only messed up our country on the world stage, but messed up our country internally?  It&#039;ll take a couple hours to do at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for a good laugh Jimmy. Shall I present a list of the mistakes the administration has made for the past 8 years that have not only messed up our country on the world stage, but messed up our country internally?  It&#8217;ll take a couple hours to do at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which mistakes were not acknowledged? I would say completely overhauling the department of defense and changing the strategy from losing to winning in Iraq was certainly an acknowledgement.  If the media wants to pretend it isn&#039;t, well thats their problem.  

What, you won&#039;t accept anything other than a written apology by Bush, &quot;I&#039;m sorry I screwed up in Iraq for the first 4 years of the war,&quot; just so you can say, &quot;I told you so?&quot;  Then you are just another Keith Olbermann partisan hack.

Our longterm prospects to fight the tyrannical are hurt only when we consider tyrants to be legitamate global actors with agendas we should compromise with.  Obama wants this compromise.  He also wants to cut military and inteligence spending by 25% during a time of war - a war which Joe Biden does not believe even exists.  Why is it Bush&#039;s fault that Obama wants to do this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which mistakes were not acknowledged? I would say completely overhauling the department of defense and changing the strategy from losing to winning in Iraq was certainly an acknowledgement.  If the media wants to pretend it isn&#8217;t, well thats their problem.  </p>
<p>What, you won&#8217;t accept anything other than a written apology by Bush, &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry I screwed up in Iraq for the first 4 years of the war,&#8221; just so you can say, &#8220;I told you so?&#8221;  Then you are just another Keith Olbermann partisan hack.</p>
<p>Our longterm prospects to fight the tyrannical are hurt only when we consider tyrants to be legitamate global actors with agendas we should compromise with.  Obama wants this compromise.  He also wants to cut military and inteligence spending by 25% during a time of war &#8211; a war which Joe Biden does not believe even exists.  Why is it Bush&#8217;s fault that Obama wants to do this?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/26/2012-talking-points-in-action-obama-equals-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-421292</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was very clear from the context of that statement that Obama was talking about America&#039;s slipping standing in the world. And can anybody argue that it isn&#039;t much less than it was 8 years ago? 

Also, when he talks about the idea of what America &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; means that he has a deep love of country and he wants to get back there. So when Phillips talks about &quot;original sins&quot;, it&#039;s obviously nonsense if this is the quote you&#039;re arguing she&#039;s pointing at.

What&#039;s funny, and what pretty much any right-winger neo con won&#039;t admit, is the fact that how we&#039;ve conducted ourselves in the past 8 years actually &lt;i&gt;hurts&lt;/i&gt; the idea of American exceptionalism. We DO make mistakes, and refusing to acknowledge this only hurts our long term prospects to fight the tyrannical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was very clear from the context of that statement that Obama was talking about America&#8217;s slipping standing in the world. And can anybody argue that it isn&#8217;t much less than it was 8 years ago? </p>
<p>Also, when he talks about the idea of what America <i>was</i> means that he has a deep love of country and he wants to get back there. So when Phillips talks about &#8220;original sins&#8221;, it&#8217;s obviously nonsense if this is the quote you&#8217;re arguing she&#8217;s pointing at.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s funny, and what pretty much any right-winger neo con won&#8217;t admit, is the fact that how we&#8217;ve conducted ourselves in the past 8 years actually <i>hurts</i> the idea of American exceptionalism. We DO make mistakes, and refusing to acknowledge this only hurts our long term prospects to fight the tyrannical.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/26/2012-talking-points-in-action-obama-equals-surrender/comment-page-1/#comment-421285</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;America is no longer what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I donâ€™t want that future for my children.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d667NAI9HIM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;-Barack Obama, 08/06/2008 &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;America is no longer what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I donâ€™t want that future for my children.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d667NAI9HIM" rel="nofollow">-Barack Obama, 08/06/2008 </a></p>
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