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	<title>Comments on: Charter Schools and the Potential for School Choice</title>
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		<title>By: mike mcEachran</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/02/charter-schools-and-the-potential-for-school-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-422617</link>
		<dc:creator>mike mcEachran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John @ &quot;What is the level of union representation in your charter schools?&quot; 

We haven&#039;t different levels of engagement with school districts.  Our schools that operate &quot;in partnership&quot; with school districts have union representation at about the same proportion as the district itself.  Our &quot;whole school&quot; management schools have little if any.  

(Taking off my professional hatâ€¦)  The teachers unions are one of the greatest impediments to school reform.  My sister-in-law works as a non-union teacher in Florida, and she rails against the influence that the unions exert.  The unions often make my sisâ€™s job more taxing by protecting ineffective teachers.  Not all Union teachers are bad, but the bad ones certainly benefit from the protection.  

(Putting professional hat back on).  Our company prides itself on working in partnership with districts, unions, community-based organizations and all others who have studentsâ€™ best interests in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John @ &#8220;What is the level of union representation in your charter schools?&#8221; </p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t different levels of engagement with school districts.  Our schools that operate &#8220;in partnership&#8221; with school districts have union representation at about the same proportion as the district itself.  Our &#8220;whole school&#8221; management schools have little if any.  </p>
<p>(Taking off my professional hatâ€¦)  The teachers unions are one of the greatest impediments to school reform.  My sister-in-law works as a non-union teacher in Florida, and she rails against the influence that the unions exert.  The unions often make my sisâ€™s job more taxing by protecting ineffective teachers.  Not all Union teachers are bad, but the bad ones certainly benefit from the protection.  </p>
<p>(Putting professional hat back on).  Our company prides itself on working in partnership with districts, unions, community-based organizations and all others who have studentsâ€™ best interests in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, 

What is the level of union representation in your charter schools?  Jimmy, it&#039;s quite different to what is happening here.  The right want to put yet another stake in the heart of unions here, and private companies running our schools will do exactly that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>What is the level of union representation in your charter schools?  Jimmy, it&#8217;s quite different to what is happening here.  The right want to put yet another stake in the heart of unions here, and private companies running our schools will do exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/02/charter-schools-and-the-potential-for-school-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-422592</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Charter Schools are so supported by the right because itâ€™s a means to privatize the public school system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Who would have thought that Belgium was right wing because their public school system is entirely comprised of what would be known as charter schools here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Charter Schools are so supported by the right because itâ€™s a means to privatize the public school system.</p></blockquote>
<p>Who would have thought that Belgium was right wing because their public school system is entirely comprised of what would be known as charter schools here.</p>
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		<title>By: mike mcEachran</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/02/charter-schools-and-the-potential-for-school-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-422564</link>
		<dc:creator>mike mcEachran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for one the nations largest charter schools management companies.  I am on the front line of this debate, working directly with our 60+ charter schools nationwide.   

The charter industry has been a shot in the arm to many of the most stagnate school systems.  Often school districts (Philadelphia, for instance) report their own positive gains are equivalent to the averages of the charter schools.  In these cases, we&#039;re seeing &quot;all boats rising&quot; as the tide of competition motivates school districts and charter schools alike to keep up with one another.  As a result of the increased competition, whole school districts have been overhauled and stream-lined, often employing managers from the business world to increase accountability and results.  Some charter schools do under perform (for a host of reasons and our company has certainly had a few).  In these cases, if achievement targets are not met, the charters are lost.   Every district and every community has their own set of challenges â€“ some have poor infrastructure, some have cultural and socio-economic challenges, some suffer from a lack of local teaching and leadership talent.  Each community needs a customized solution â€“ and the accountability that comes with the increased competition is allowing for a higher turn-over of ideas to take place.  In the short term, not all school designs will work, but in the long term, the increased attention and competition for resources is giving once ignored school children options that they didnâ€™t previously have.  The parents and (often the students) chose where they attend.  Therefore, my company can be successful only when we produce a quality school with good achievement and a positive school culture that is attractive to parents and students.  The power of choice is great for kids and their families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for one the nations largest charter schools management companies.  I am on the front line of this debate, working directly with our 60+ charter schools nationwide.   </p>
<p>The charter industry has been a shot in the arm to many of the most stagnate school systems.  Often school districts (Philadelphia, for instance) report their own positive gains are equivalent to the averages of the charter schools.  In these cases, we&#8217;re seeing &#8220;all boats rising&#8221; as the tide of competition motivates school districts and charter schools alike to keep up with one another.  As a result of the increased competition, whole school districts have been overhauled and stream-lined, often employing managers from the business world to increase accountability and results.  Some charter schools do under perform (for a host of reasons and our company has certainly had a few).  In these cases, if achievement targets are not met, the charters are lost.   Every district and every community has their own set of challenges â€“ some have poor infrastructure, some have cultural and socio-economic challenges, some suffer from a lack of local teaching and leadership talent.  Each community needs a customized solution â€“ and the accountability that comes with the increased competition is allowing for a higher turn-over of ideas to take place.  In the short term, not all school designs will work, but in the long term, the increased attention and competition for resources is giving once ignored school children options that they didnâ€™t previously have.  The parents and (often the students) chose where they attend.  Therefore, my company can be successful only when we produce a quality school with good achievement and a positive school culture that is attractive to parents and students.  The power of choice is great for kids and their families.</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am generally in favor of charter schools insofar as this means revising various education systems to provide parents and students with a variety of educational approaches. And I am generally in favor of rewarding results, and using good results to determine which sorts of educational appraoches to favor.

However, in addition to trying so hard to get &lt;i&gt;schools&lt;/i&gt; to compete, we should also consider letting &lt;i&gt;students&lt;/i&gt; compete more, and sooner. We should reward merit more often, set the bar higher in general, and sometimes we might even have to leave behind weak students. There is a conundrum inherent in competing educational ideals relating to achievement and egalitarianism. And finite resources place this conundrum in high relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am generally in favor of charter schools insofar as this means revising various education systems to provide parents and students with a variety of educational approaches. And I am generally in favor of rewarding results, and using good results to determine which sorts of educational appraoches to favor.</p>
<p>However, in addition to trying so hard to get <i>schools</i> to compete, we should also consider letting <i>students</i> compete more, and sooner. We should reward merit more often, set the bar higher in general, and sometimes we might even have to leave behind weak students. There is a conundrum inherent in competing educational ideals relating to achievement and egalitarianism. And finite resources place this conundrum in high relief.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charter Schools are so supported by the right because it&#039;s a means to privatize the public school system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charter Schools are so supported by the right because it&#8217;s a means to privatize the public school system.</p>
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		<title>By: bunny fufu</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunny fufu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While important to know what charter schools are, I think the more controversial issue is that of vouchers. Both presidential candidates are proponents of charter schools but have different stances on vouchers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While important to know what charter schools are, I think the more controversial issue is that of vouchers. Both presidential candidates are proponents of charter schools but have different stances on vouchers.</p>
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