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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422882</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TerenceC
I&#039;ll have no problem finding things that need opposition. Almost every single thing in Obama&#039;s infomercial is a good place to start. Of course you have to first strip away the flowery language and look at the real proposals. Nothing but massive new spending and absolutely no way to pay for it without a lot more taxes or a lot more debt or both. 

I think I&#039;ll start a pool to predict the day that Obama gives the speech explaining that &quot;due to circumstances beyond his control&quot; he will have to renege on all his tax pledges. Cap gains are definitely going north of 25% with Rubin at Treasury. We have already learned that $250K is not the real  Obama threshold for higher taxes on individuals and small business. Biden was talking $150K, and that is still is not going to be enough. Its going lower. Guaranteed. 
 
Interesting that Obama supporters who claimed that Obama should be elected because he was going to be a great transcendental bipartisan healer and unifier, are now saying that compromise is really not important. What is now important? - Do it our way. After all. It&#039;s a mandate donchaknow? 

Yeah. That attitude, those policies, will need strong opposition. I just hope there is enough GOP backbone left in the Senate to stop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TerenceC<br />
I&#8217;ll have no problem finding things that need opposition. Almost every single thing in Obama&#8217;s infomercial is a good place to start. Of course you have to first strip away the flowery language and look at the real proposals. Nothing but massive new spending and absolutely no way to pay for it without a lot more taxes or a lot more debt or both. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll start a pool to predict the day that Obama gives the speech explaining that &#8220;due to circumstances beyond his control&#8221; he will have to renege on all his tax pledges. Cap gains are definitely going north of 25% with Rubin at Treasury. We have already learned that $250K is not the real  Obama threshold for higher taxes on individuals and small business. Biden was talking $150K, and that is still is not going to be enough. Its going lower. Guaranteed. </p>
<p>Interesting that Obama supporters who claimed that Obama should be elected because he was going to be a great transcendental bipartisan healer and unifier, are now saying that compromise is really not important. What is now important? &#8211; Do it our way. After all. It&#8217;s a mandate donchaknow? </p>
<p>Yeah. That attitude, those policies, will need strong opposition. I just hope there is enough GOP backbone left in the Senate to stop it.</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceC</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422873</link>
		<dc:creator>TerenceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I guess now that the Primaries and the General are finished you&#039;re just looking for something to write about - something with an opposition to rail against? Give undivided government a chance - there&#039;s alot of things broken right now - great actions in the Congress have never been accomplished when compromise is the priority - only when necessity is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I guess now that the Primaries and the General are finished you&#8217;re just looking for something to write about &#8211; something with an opposition to rail against? Give undivided government a chance &#8211; there&#8217;s alot of things broken right now &#8211; great actions in the Congress have never been accomplished when compromise is the priority &#8211; only when necessity is.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422787</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;I hold out some faith that either the Dems will be smart enough not to overreach.. I actually think an Obama presidency and a Republican congress (comprised of new Republicans, not in the Tom Delay model) would make for a far more effective government than would McCain and the Democrats. &lt;/i&gt; - ASC&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t disagree about the D president with a R Congress vs the opposite. You have to get pretty granular in the history of the divided government vs one party rule, perhaps drawing conclusions with insufficient data points to draw broad conclusions,  but it does appear from the record that fiscal responsibility stack ranking are (from best to worst):

1) President- D Congress- R
2) President- R Congress- D
3) President- R Congress- R
4) President- D  Congress- D

The problem is the damage that can occur over the next two years if the Republicans lose the filibuster or are so cowed by the &quot;mandate&quot; that they fail to stand up and obstruct an Obama administration with an explicit agenda of a trillion dollars of new spending. I&#039;ll stand on my statement, I cannot understand how any fiscal conservative, libertarian,  or limited government advocate could vote to take that risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;I hold out some faith that either the Dems will be smart enough not to overreach.. I actually think an Obama presidency and a Republican congress (comprised of new Republicans, not in the Tom Delay model) would make for a far more effective government than would McCain and the Democrats. </i> &#8211; ASC</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree about the D president with a R Congress vs the opposite. You have to get pretty granular in the history of the divided government vs one party rule, perhaps drawing conclusions with insufficient data points to draw broad conclusions,  but it does appear from the record that fiscal responsibility stack ranking are (from best to worst):</p>
<p>1) President- D Congress- R<br />
2) President- R Congress- D<br />
3) President- R Congress- R<br />
4) President- D  Congress- D</p>
<p>The problem is the damage that can occur over the next two years if the Republicans lose the filibuster or are so cowed by the &#8220;mandate&#8221; that they fail to stand up and obstruct an Obama administration with an explicit agenda of a trillion dollars of new spending. I&#8217;ll stand on my statement, I cannot understand how any fiscal conservative, libertarian,  or limited government advocate could vote to take that risk.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422784</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@rob&lt;/b&gt; - Thanks for reinforcing my impressions of the intellectual capacity of the  the kool-aid crowd. Partisans on the right (linked picture) - partisans on the left (you, Ian) - just peas in a pod. 

&lt;b&gt;@george&lt;/b&gt; - It is just a question of how much damage gets done to the country in order to create that illusory &quot;deterrence&quot; you are hoping for. I cannot think of any example where a politician with a perceived mandate was deterred by anything except hardball political opposition. Which may not exist for Obama.  

&lt;b&gt;@Jim S&lt;/b&gt; -  To maintain this view, one must pretend that the projected large Democratic majority in the Senate does not exist and will have nothing to say about confirming a McCain appointment. It is a simplistic view that completely ignores John McCain&#039;s moderate record in the Senate with judicial appointments of both parties. John McCain led the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_14&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Gang of 14&quot;&lt;/a&gt; bipartisan moderates in the Senate against George Bush,earning him the enmity of his own party to preserve the filibuster in the Senate for the minority Democratic party on judicial picks. He did so at the risk of his presidential ambitions, and for no other reason than because it was the right thing to do for the country. And - oh yeah - to force the GOP&#039;s hand on more moderate judicial selections. One wonders where we will find such a strong voice for moderation in the Democratic Party that is willing to buck their own party establishment. I don&#039;t see it anywhere. (from the linked part of my post - I have to take a few shortcuts in the comments)

&lt;b&gt;@gljunket&lt;/b&gt; - I also got no respect from RedState.com when I was pushing divided government in 2006 (they banned me). 80%+ of the electorate are pure partisans. Pushing a consistent divided government voting heuristic means that - by definition - I will be opposing 80% of the electorate over several election cycles. For me, disrespect from partisans is a badge of honor. 

&lt;b&gt;dyre&lt;/b&gt; - I like it. Perhaps I should change my logo.

&lt;b&gt;TerrenceC&lt;/b&gt; - Yes I am. Actually, just getting started. I should have my first 2010 divided government post later this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@rob</b> &#8211; Thanks for reinforcing my impressions of the intellectual capacity of the  the kool-aid crowd. Partisans on the right (linked picture) &#8211; partisans on the left (you, Ian) &#8211; just peas in a pod. </p>
<p><b>@george</b> &#8211; It is just a question of how much damage gets done to the country in order to create that illusory &#8220;deterrence&#8221; you are hoping for. I cannot think of any example where a politician with a perceived mandate was deterred by anything except hardball political opposition. Which may not exist for Obama.  </p>
<p><b>@Jim S</b> &#8211;  To maintain this view, one must pretend that the projected large Democratic majority in the Senate does not exist and will have nothing to say about confirming a McCain appointment. It is a simplistic view that completely ignores John McCain&#8217;s moderate record in the Senate with judicial appointments of both parties. John McCain led the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_14" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Gang of 14&#8243;</a> bipartisan moderates in the Senate against George Bush,earning him the enmity of his own party to preserve the filibuster in the Senate for the minority Democratic party on judicial picks. He did so at the risk of his presidential ambitions, and for no other reason than because it was the right thing to do for the country. And &#8211; oh yeah &#8211; to force the GOP&#8217;s hand on more moderate judicial selections. One wonders where we will find such a strong voice for moderation in the Democratic Party that is willing to buck their own party establishment. I don&#8217;t see it anywhere. (from the linked part of my post &#8211; I have to take a few shortcuts in the comments)</p>
<p><b>@gljunket</b> &#8211; I also got no respect from RedState.com when I was pushing divided government in 2006 (they banned me). 80%+ of the electorate are pure partisans. Pushing a consistent divided government voting heuristic means that &#8211; by definition &#8211; I will be opposing 80% of the electorate over several election cycles. For me, disrespect from partisans is a badge of honor. </p>
<p><b>dyre</b> &#8211; I like it. Perhaps I should change my logo.</p>
<p><b>TerrenceC</b> &#8211; Yes I am. Actually, just getting started. I should have my first 2010 divided government post later this week.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422779</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;If the divided government of the 20 months â€œhas begun to reverse the damage of the 2001-2006 One Party Ruleâ€ then why would it be a bad thing to vote with the Democrats 97% of the time?&lt;/i&gt; - bunny&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It is always a good thing to have opposition representing a large percentage of the American population with a share of power in Washington. We need opposition to an imperial presidency like we had with Bush and will have again with Obama.  We had meaningful opposition for the last two years.   There will be no meaningful oppostion for the next two years. 

My point is not that Obama&#039;s voting record was wrong for the last two years (although it certainly was on FISA when his campaign was &lt;a href=&quot;http://donklephant.com/2008/10/28/barack-buying-the-election/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bought off by ATT&lt;/a&gt;).  My point is that there is absolutely not one shred of evidence in Obama&#039;s voting record to show that he is the bipartisan &quot;uniter&quot; that he claims to be. His voting record and history in the US Senate is the record of a partisan hack - and in the State Senate  the voting record of your run-of-the-mill Chicago machine pol. That is his voting record. It is wildly at variance with his rhetoric. He talks a good game though. And that is all that really matters isn&#039;t it?  Because when what a  politician &lt;i&gt;says&lt;/i&gt; does is at variance with with what a politician &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt;, we should always go with what they say. It is easier that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;If the divided government of the 20 months â€œhas begun to reverse the damage of the 2001-2006 One Party Ruleâ€ then why would it be a bad thing to vote with the Democrats 97% of the time?</i> &#8211; bunny</p></blockquote>
<p>It is always a good thing to have opposition representing a large percentage of the American population with a share of power in Washington. We need opposition to an imperial presidency like we had with Bush and will have again with Obama.  We had meaningful opposition for the last two years.   There will be no meaningful oppostion for the next two years. </p>
<p>My point is not that Obama&#8217;s voting record was wrong for the last two years (although it certainly was on FISA when his campaign was <a href="http://donklephant.com/2008/10/28/barack-buying-the-election/" rel="nofollow">bought off by ATT</a>).  My point is that there is absolutely not one shred of evidence in Obama&#8217;s voting record to show that he is the bipartisan &#8220;uniter&#8221; that he claims to be. His voting record and history in the US Senate is the record of a partisan hack &#8211; and in the State Senate  the voting record of your run-of-the-mill Chicago machine pol. That is his voting record. It is wildly at variance with his rhetoric. He talks a good game though. And that is all that really matters isn&#8217;t it?  Because when what a  politician <i>says</i> does is at variance with with what a politician <i>does</i>, we should always go with what they say. It is easier that way.</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceC</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422757</link>
		<dc:creator>TerenceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MW - Your still pedaling this crap? Vote for divided government even if it means having someone in office who is clearly not the right guy, and a running mate that is not only hard right but intellectually not up to the job? Your out of touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW &#8211; Your still pedaling this crap? Vote for divided government even if it means having someone in office who is clearly not the right guy, and a running mate that is not only hard right but intellectually not up to the job? Your out of touch.</p>
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		<title>By: Dyre42</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422749</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyre42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gljunket: &quot; Youâ€™re not going to get any respect here, mw, from these so-called indieâ€™s who are so anti-neocon theyâ€™re rushing headlong into the Age of Entitlement with the â€œchange and hopeâ€ fantasy.&quot;

I think you&#039;re wrong GL. First literally only a small percentage of people who read blogs leave comments. It seems that only the impassioned few leave comments.

Secondly the name Donklephnat is till valid. Of the people that post here only Justin and Alan voted for Obama (possible exception of Fools) MW is voting for McCain and I assume Nick Ragone is as well. I myself voted for Bob Barr. So while the most frequent posters here did in fact vote for Obama it seems the majority of writers here didn&#039;t (or there may be a tie). Either way when one considers the leanings of the contributors of this blog versus the number of of &quot;pro-Obama&quot; posts on this blog it breaks roughly even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gljunket: &#8221; Youâ€™re not going to get any respect here, mw, from these so-called indieâ€™s who are so anti-neocon theyâ€™re rushing headlong into the Age of Entitlement with the â€œchange and hopeâ€ fantasy.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re wrong GL. First literally only a small percentage of people who read blogs leave comments. It seems that only the impassioned few leave comments.</p>
<p>Secondly the name Donklephnat is till valid. Of the people that post here only Justin and Alan voted for Obama (possible exception of Fools) MW is voting for McCain and I assume Nick Ragone is as well. I myself voted for Bob Barr. So while the most frequent posters here did in fact vote for Obama it seems the majority of writers here didn&#8217;t (or there may be a tie). Either way when one considers the leanings of the contributors of this blog versus the number of of &#8220;pro-Obama&#8221; posts on this blog it breaks roughly even.</p>
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		<title>By: Dyre42</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422748</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyre42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gljunket: &quot; Youâ€™re not going to get any respect here, mw, from these so-called indieâ€™s who are so anti-neocon theyâ€™re rushing headlong into the Age of Entitlement with the â€œchange and hopeâ€ fantasy.&quot;

I think you&#039;re wrong GL. First literally only a small percentage of people who read blogs leave comments. It seems that only the empassioned few leave comments.

Secondly the name Donklephnat is till valid. Of the people that post here only Justin and Alan voted for Obama (possible exception of Fools) MW is voting for McCain and I assume Nick Ragone is as well. I myself voted for Bob Barr. So while the most frequent posters here did in fact vote for Obama it seems the majority of writers here didn&#039;t (or there may be a tie). Either way when one considers the leanings of the contributors of this blog versus the number of of &quot;pro-Obama&quot; posts on this blog it breaks roughly even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gljunket: &#8221; Youâ€™re not going to get any respect here, mw, from these so-called indieâ€™s who are so anti-neocon theyâ€™re rushing headlong into the Age of Entitlement with the â€œchange and hopeâ€ fantasy.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re wrong GL. First literally only a small percentage of people who read blogs leave comments. It seems that only the empassioned few leave comments.</p>
<p>Secondly the name Donklephnat is till valid. Of the people that post here only Justin and Alan voted for Obama (possible exception of Fools) MW is voting for McCain and I assume Nick Ragone is as well. I myself voted for Bob Barr. So while the most frequent posters here did in fact vote for Obama it seems the majority of writers here didn&#8217;t (or there may be a tie). Either way when one considers the leanings of the contributors of this blog versus the number of of &#8220;pro-Obama&#8221; posts on this blog it breaks roughly even.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422730</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mw -- I voted for divided government, but I didn&#039;t do so with consideration to the strategy DWSUWF has endorsed for this particular election.

Given how inept the Dems were the last time they had total power, they not only couldn&#039;t pass Clinton&#039;s signature plan (health care) they lost both houses of congress the very next election. I hold out some faith that either the Dems will be smart enough not to overreach and doom themselves or they will overreach and, well, doom themselves.

I actually think an Obama presidency and a Republican congress (comprised of new Republicans, not in the Tom Delay model) would make for a far more effective government than would McCain and the Democrats. Maybe I&#039;m twisting my reasoning into a knot and look like an ass in the process, but what can I say? My cynicism is relapsing remitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mw &#8212; I voted for divided government, but I didn&#8217;t do so with consideration to the strategy DWSUWF has endorsed for this particular election.</p>
<p>Given how inept the Dems were the last time they had total power, they not only couldn&#8217;t pass Clinton&#8217;s signature plan (health care) they lost both houses of congress the very next election. I hold out some faith that either the Dems will be smart enough not to overreach and doom themselves or they will overreach and, well, doom themselves.</p>
<p>I actually think an Obama presidency and a Republican congress (comprised of new Republicans, not in the Tom Delay model) would make for a far more effective government than would McCain and the Democrats. Maybe I&#8217;m twisting my reasoning into a knot and look like an ass in the process, but what can I say? My cynicism is relapsing remitting.</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Prognostications</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422727</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Prognostications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MW Hopesâ„¢ the ASC longshot scenario plays out, McCain wins, and we have divided government for the next four [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Prognostications</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Prognostications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] MW Hopesâ„¢ the ASC longshot scenario plays out, McCain wins, and we have divided government for the next four [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gljunket</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422723</link>
		<dc:creator>gljunket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not going to get any respect here, mw, from these so-called indie&#039;s who are so anti-neocon they&#039;re rushing headlong into the Age of Entitlement with the &quot;change and hope&quot; fantasy. They really need to re-think the name Donklephant. I love the rationalizations that Obama is a smart enough leader to put the damper on a filibuster-proof Pelosi/Reid crash to the Left. My sentiments are with your DWSUWF concept, but McCain/GOP don&#039;t deserve my support, and with the train wreck imminent, I could only find a degree of solace for the moment in Libertarian Bob Barr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not going to get any respect here, mw, from these so-called indie&#8217;s who are so anti-neocon they&#8217;re rushing headlong into the Age of Entitlement with the &#8220;change and hope&#8221; fantasy. They really need to re-think the name Donklephant. I love the rationalizations that Obama is a smart enough leader to put the damper on a filibuster-proof Pelosi/Reid crash to the Left. My sentiments are with your DWSUWF concept, but McCain/GOP don&#8217;t deserve my support, and with the train wreck imminent, I could only find a degree of solace for the moment in Libertarian Bob Barr.</p>
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		<title>By: Dyre42</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422696</link>
		<dc:creator>Dyre42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well OK MW, you talked me into it. I&#039;ll do a write in vote for Ã·</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well OK MW, you talked me into it. I&#8217;ll do a write in vote for Ã·</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422677</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Supreme Court and the completely dishonest way that nominees are handled means that there is absolutely no way that McCain should become President. He has sworn that he will nominate more judges like the ones Bush nominated. Yes, it will be possible to sneak in a ringer past a Democratic Senate with fewer than 60 Democrats. Or at least McCain would use a lot of our Senate&#039;s time trying to do so. That alone is a reason I just can&#039;t buy the divided government argument. But after Bush I just don&#039;t trust Republican presidents to place competence above ideology in any appointment to any agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Supreme Court and the completely dishonest way that nominees are handled means that there is absolutely no way that McCain should become President. He has sworn that he will nominate more judges like the ones Bush nominated. Yes, it will be possible to sneak in a ringer past a Democratic Senate with fewer than 60 Democrats. Or at least McCain would use a lot of our Senate&#8217;s time trying to do so. That alone is a reason I just can&#8217;t buy the divided government argument. But after Bush I just don&#8217;t trust Republican presidents to place competence above ideology in any appointment to any agency.</p>
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		<title>By: WhosDat</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422671</link>
		<dc:creator>WhosDat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a list of the most unbiased articles of this election: 

http://blog.skewz.com/2008/11/top-7-most-unbiased-articles-of.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a list of the most unbiased articles of this election: </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.skewz.com/2008/11/top-7-most-unbiased-articles-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.skewz.com/2008/11/top-7-most-unbiased-articles-of.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422669</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could argue that the divided government of the last two years has been more effective than single party government was for six years prior. You could also be missing the obvious point that the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate have simply put a stop to Republican incompetence and corruption.

This means your call for a divided government is a call for a government that is divided between the effective and honest part and the corrupt and incompetent part. Seems like a job only half completed. Why not just vote out all the Republicans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could argue that the divided government of the last two years has been more effective than single party government was for six years prior. You could also be missing the obvious point that the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate have simply put a stop to Republican incompetence and corruption.</p>
<p>This means your call for a divided government is a call for a government that is divided between the effective and honest part and the corrupt and incompetent part. Seems like a job only half completed. Why not just vote out all the Republicans?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422665</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the republicans deserve to be assF**ked, figuratively, or literally, if as I suspect, most of them are into that sort of thing.  I don&#039;t think the democrats will have a magic number in congress, and I don&#039;t think that they&#039;ll do legislatively a superior job over the republicans.  But politicians need to have at least some minor form of responsibility for the worst performance of any government in the history of this country.  Hopefully they&#039;ll have 2nd thoughts of raping america in every orifice if they know that at least 50% of americans are paying attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the republicans deserve to be assF**ked, figuratively, or literally, if as I suspect, most of them are into that sort of thing.  I don&#8217;t think the democrats will have a magic number in congress, and I don&#8217;t think that they&#8217;ll do legislatively a superior job over the republicans.  But politicians need to have at least some minor form of responsibility for the worst performance of any government in the history of this country.  Hopefully they&#8217;ll have 2nd thoughts of raping america in every orifice if they know that at least 50% of americans are paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: George Mauer</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422660</link>
		<dc:creator>George Mauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same response to this as to all your other posts mw, agree with your principles and your heuristic just not this time.  

As we&#039;ve discussed here: http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/meet-the-new-boss-same-as-the-old-boss/#comments and in a dozen other places it boils down to different priorities.  I feel like it is important to make an example of those who have so decimated our reputation, raped our liberties, over-stretched our resources, discounted science, and catered to the lowest common denominator.  I think this is incredibly necessary to provide a deterrent for future abusers.  I take that plus the incredible seeming competency of Obama and the people he surrounds himself with and don&#039;t look back.  You on the other hand want to play the safer hand, that&#039;s fair but as to who the country agrees with.  One word:

Scoreboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same response to this as to all your other posts mw, agree with your principles and your heuristic just not this time.  </p>
<p>As we&#8217;ve discussed here: <a href="http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/meet-the-new-boss-same-as-the-old-boss/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/meet-the-new-boss-same-as-the-old-boss/#comments</a> and in a dozen other places it boils down to different priorities.  I feel like it is important to make an example of those who have so decimated our reputation, raped our liberties, over-stretched our resources, discounted science, and catered to the lowest common denominator.  I think this is incredibly necessary to provide a deterrent for future abusers.  I take that plus the incredible seeming competency of Obama and the people he surrounds himself with and don&#8217;t look back.  You on the other hand want to play the safer hand, that&#8217;s fair but as to who the country agrees with.  One word:</p>
<p>Scoreboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422654</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It is going to take a  complete repudiation of the GOP to get things back to normal&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg" rel="nofollow">It is going to take a  complete repudiation of the GOP to get things back to normal</a></p>
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		<title>By: bunny fufu</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/03/just-vote-divided/comment-page-1/#comment-422651</link>
		<dc:creator>bunny fufu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I disagree with your points, but I find your reasoning a bit weird. If the divided government of the 20 months &quot;has begun to reverse the damage of the 2001-2006 One Party Rule&quot; then why would it be a bad thing to vote with the Democrats 97% of the time? Half that voting record would be within the last 20 months, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I disagree with your points, but I find your reasoning a bit weird. If the divided government of the 20 months &#8220;has begun to reverse the damage of the 2001-2006 One Party Rule&#8221; then why would it be a bad thing to vote with the Democrats 97% of the time? Half that voting record would be within the last 20 months, right?</p>
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