Comments on: New Dem Senators Could Pull Party Towards the Center

By: wvbill

wvbill — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:24:27 +0000

The loudest crying during this administration will be from the left. Our president elect is not about to attempt to govern from the left as too much needs to be done. He was elected to carry out a left center agenda and I believe that will become obvious shortly.

By: Jimmy the Dhimmi

Jimmy the Dhimmi — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:48:58 +0000

Jacob:

Dissent is patriotic; roadblocking for the sheer hell of it is not.

Obama just won. I am the dissenter now. You just told me I shouldn’t express my opinions. You are roadblocking me. I therefore question your patriotism.

By: SaneInSF

SaneInSF — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:11:16 +0000

Jacob — give me a break. “Smart,” however you define it, does not equate to governing successfully. Albert Einstein was smart by your definition, but he would have made a terrible President (of course couldn’t have — he wasn’t born here, but that’s a different issue).

There are also a lot of “smart” people that believed in Marxism too.

What a ridiculous and ill-informed statement. Jacob. Now go back and read your Chomsky.

By: Jacob

Jacob — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:15:46 +0000

Jimmy- You should stop writing things for others to read. Your comments usually are based on your OPINIONS rather than FACT. Obama is one of the smartest men to ever be President-Elect. Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review; this isn’t given to anyone. This man is smarter than me, 99% of the people who comment here, and surely smarter than you. This is a GOOD thing. The President SHOULD be one of the smartest people in the country. Yes, Obama will listen to his advisors, but he will make his own actions. I don’t expect him to be perfect; he is human. I do however expect the crazies on both sides to GET OVER THEMSELVES and UNIFY. Dissent is patriotic; roadblocking for the sheer hell of it is not.

By: kranky kritter

kranky kritter — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:13:51 +0000

Disagree Jimmi, but hey, time will tell.

Alan, I think it will be very good news IF centrists and independents have a decent-sized group of blue dogs and moderate republicans to back on some issues.

My personal opinion is that Obama will be well-served if he chooses to govern by listening seriously to and sometimes backing this group. But then a moderate wil always think that, right?

Obama will never be more popular that he is right now, I think. That argues for trying to achieve big changes first. However, I think and hope that the clintonian term 1 overreach is something he’d like to avoid. Conditional Obama supporters like you and I are hoping that Obama will govern as something of a moderate incrementalist. We both know that we have nothing aside from his occasional utterances and temperament to base that hope upon. So I for one need to see some early key decisions reflect that. And that definitely means something more than a careful handful of appointments to key positions. What I am talking about are actual actions and policies.

By: grognard

grognard — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:09:03 +0000

Now it is time for the Liberals to be disappointed. Obama is taking control of a government that has a massive amount of debit, and by 2010 a social security program that will be taking in money to support it. He will be hard pressed, even if he raises taxes, to fund the programs he proposes. He has already warned of this, but I donâ€™t think the uber liberals have gotten the message. Of course Bush will be blamed for this, just like Clinton was blamed by the Republicans. Some of it will be justified, you canâ€™t ignore the fact that the Republicans even before the bailout made LBJ look like a fiscal conservative, but the excuses will wear off quick. What will the Conservatives do? This is the time they could make some gains if they drop the liberal bashing and offer alternatives, but with the Limbaugh kool aid cult noise machine in full swing Iâ€™m not holding my breath.

By: Jimmy the Dhimmi

Jimmy the Dhimmi — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:18:47 +0000

Wishful thinking. This is still Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer’s party. If Obama governs from the center, it will be because of his advisers and cabinet members who have expertise in finance and the economy, who will tell him, “Look, Mr. President, you just can’t do this, it will bankrupt everything!” He will listen to them because if there is one thing Barack knows about himself, its that he doesn’t know much about anything other than community organizing.