I THINK McCain and his wife should have disclosed their tax returns, I THINK McCain should disclose how he vetted Palin. That doesn’t mean there is a mechanism for this to happen.

which is why Obama elected to not use public financing after he promised to do so… snaky snake that he is!

Please include a link where he promised to not use public funding.

wsosbor Says:
November 12th, 2008 at 11:33 am

I think that Obama’s tax plan will destroy the economy even further.

That carries about as much weight as me deciding what NASA’s next mission should be.

It is quite evident that Obama didn’t major in economics in college, much less even take an economic class.

I believe that McCain was a victim of Liberal press.

… and it isn’t just foreign contributions it’s the businesses, lobbyists , and other that SAID they were just plain simple people like yourself so they can get around the contribution limits, which is why Obama elected to not use public financing after he promised to do so… snaky snake that he is!

Speculation. Hearsay. Rumormongering.

But yes, I agree, let’s audit. The millions spent on an audit would be worth it to prove you wrong, I think. ;)

–Ag

Look, I’m not against McCain. I actually liked the guy a lot back when he was himself and wasn’t trying to be something that appealed to the old, white, evangelical base. The McCain of the concession speech is a guy I could have voted for.

I couldn’t have said it better, Jeffrey.

That McCain would’ve chosen Joe Lieberman as a running mate–not some Caribou Barbie that he only first met six months ago.

Frankly, I’d like to see Obama audited. Somehow, I doubt there exists an adequate number of crows to stuff down the pie holes of all those screaming for this audit.

Who, exactly, is demanding this audit, anyway?

Perhaps the same folks that demanded a valid birth certificate?

Perhaps the same folks that denounced Obama as a Muslim?

Perhaps the same folks that said they had a tape of Michelle Obama ranting against “Whitey?”

Perhaps the same folks that said, “Look! He doesn’t put his hand over his heart when he should! What a traitor!”

Perhaps the same folks that said, “His pastor said WHAT?!?!?”

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Agnostick
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I guess I find it a bit disingenuous for Republicans to be complaining about this. McCain was the co-sponsor of the McCain-Feingold Act, and if he felt that this system was unfair he ought to have changed it when he wrote that act.

Look guys, the time to game the referees is over. Let’s assume your crazy theories are right and $12 million bucks were donated by foreigners. Well, that’s only 2% of the money he raised. Regular Americans donated the vast majority of his campaign money, and even if the out-there theories are right, the truth is that the overwhelming majority of his money was given by ordinary Americans like myself.

Regardless of any small irregularities, Obama simply out-raised McCain. The Republicans in prior years have never seemed to have a problem with outspending Democrats, so please don’t feign offense now.

Your candidate ran a poor campaign and had a vague and rapidly changing message. He lost because he was the worse candidate. Folks are tired of scare tactics and rumor mongering and red-baiting and personal attacks. People want hope for the future and leadership, not innuendo and McCarthyism. The GOP lost because its message is narrow, divisive, and out of touch. The sooner you guys realize that the sooner you can start winning elections again.

Look, I’m not against McCain. I actually liked the guy a lot back when he was himself and wasn’t trying to be something that appealed to the old, white, evangelical base. The McCain of the concession speech is a guy I could have voted for.

But here’s the reality. The GOP is now the party of old white Southern men. It needs to change that. It needs to start being inclusive of Latinos (stop already with the immigration hate), Blacks, Gays (yep), the poor, the middle class, people who aren’t zealots, and women. Until you kick the Sarah Palins and the Jerry Falwells of the world out of your party (or at least shut them up) you’re going to be the minority.

So anyway, stop making this out to be an Obama thing. If you don’t like the way the campaign finance laws work, talk to McCain about it. But what you really ought to do is take a long hard look in the mirror and figure out how the GOP can be representative of the America of today again. I personally hope it can be, as I think it’s important to have both sides equally represented and I think the GOP can have a lot to offer once it gets rid of the idiots that are currently running it (and the fringe groups that currently support it).

Well, our election system has politicians police themselves. How is that not equally stupid? Actually, how is that not MORE stupid because there is no potential oversight?

Ed, is there any law the Democrats could break that you WOULD get mad about? If not you are no democrat (notice the lower cass “d”.)

When Democrats use the rules to wipe the floor with you, you cry foul. If Republicans do it, it’s good politics. That’s why you lost. Always crying about how unfair everything is. Most people realize it’s the Republicans that are the crooked ones, so that’s why you are in the political wilderness.

John McCain sought public financing in the primaries, secured a loan to resuscitate his losing campaign using that as collateral, and then illegally opted out of the public financing. The only reason he was able to finance his primary campaign with all those donor contributions is because the Bushies refused to properly staff the FEC so that the complaints could be addressed. So I don’t want to hear anyone imply that Obama did anything wrong because he’s not being audited, when there is proof that McCain illegally financed his campaign.

But in the Republican world, suggesting impropriety against an opponent carries more weight than actual impropriety by their own party.

This public/private financing of the presidential campaigns faux outrage was a losing issue during the race, and it continues to be one for you now. Seek your campaign finance reform, but maybe this time have someone other than McCain sponsor it, since he has a problem actually supporting any of his “reforms” such as this or his immigration reform if it’s not politically expedient.

I’d say no. Taxpayers deserve to know how their money is being spent, which is why oversight in government, and organizations the government funds, is so important. On the private side, it is up to the people who are directly funding the entity to demand oversight.

That said, given the amount of money involved, and Obama’s promise of a more open and accountable way of doing business, his books should definitely be audited as well.