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	<title>Comments on: Judge Orders 5 Detainees To Be Released</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/21/judge-orders-5-detainees-to-be-released/comment-page-1/#comment-425489</link>
		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I mean yes its just a linguistic formulation but the use of terms molds how our minds process information (see: Wittginstein and every linguist/psychologist ever) . In something like this we need to be very very careful.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have a degree in psychology. My graduate work also included more study in cognitive psychology. And I think this is really more of a boutique theoretical point than something that we need to be &quot;very, very, careful about.&quot;

I am as concerned as anyone else about our various so-called wars on poverty(LBJ), drugs(Reagan), and terror(Bush), and so on.  There is always the danger that they become an open-ended black hole sucking up resources without changing much of anything. They even lead to perverse results.

But you&#039;ll have a hard time convincing me that  people are unable to see these efforts for what they are, warts and all, simply because of vocabulary choice. 

Maybe what we need is a war on hair-splitting. Not sure which side I&#039;d end up on though. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I mean yes its just a linguistic formulation but the use of terms molds how our minds process information (see: Wittginstein and every linguist/psychologist ever) . In something like this we need to be very very careful.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have a degree in psychology. My graduate work also included more study in cognitive psychology. And I think this is really more of a boutique theoretical point than something that we need to be &#8220;very, very, careful about.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am as concerned as anyone else about our various so-called wars on poverty(LBJ), drugs(Reagan), and terror(Bush), and so on.  There is always the danger that they become an open-ended black hole sucking up resources without changing much of anything. They even lead to perverse results.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;ll have a hard time convincing me that  people are unable to see these efforts for what they are, warts and all, simply because of vocabulary choice. </p>
<p>Maybe what we need is a war on hair-splitting. Not sure which side I&#8217;d end up on though. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/21/judge-orders-5-detainees-to-be-released/comment-page-1/#comment-425482</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right George.  Thats why we should call it the &quot;war of Islamic fascism&quot; or the &quot;war on jihad&quot; or something like that.  If fighting the spread of communism deserves the moniker of war, then this one does too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right George.  Thats why we should call it the &#8220;war of Islamic fascism&#8221; or the &#8220;war on jihad&#8221; or something like that.  If fighting the spread of communism deserves the moniker of war, then this one does too.</p>
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		<title>By: George Mauer</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/21/judge-orders-5-detainees-to-be-released/comment-page-1/#comment-425477</link>
		<dc:creator>George Mauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, no jimmy, war has a definition, the current conflict does not fit it - you can&#039;t have a war on a tactic yadda yadda yadda.  

I mean yes its just a linguistic formulation but the use of terms molds how our minds process information (see: Wittginstein and every linguist/psychologist ever) .  In something like this we need to be very very careful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no jimmy, war has a definition, the current conflict does not fit it &#8211; you can&#8217;t have a war on a tactic yadda yadda yadda.  </p>
<p>I mean yes its just a linguistic formulation but the use of terms molds how our minds process information (see: Wittginstein and every linguist/psychologist ever) .  In something like this we need to be very very careful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/11/21/judge-orders-5-detainees-to-be-released/comment-page-1/#comment-425471</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;By the way, 20 years from now what do you think weâ€™ll say about Guantanamo Bay and the â€œwarâ€ on terrorism?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If there is a terrorist attack with WMD within the next 20 years, we would ask, &quot;What were we thinking putting quotation marks around the word &#039;war&#039;!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>By the way, 20 years from now what do you think weâ€™ll say about Guantanamo Bay and the â€œwarâ€ on terrorism?</p></blockquote>
<p>If there is a terrorist attack with WMD within the next 20 years, we would ask, &#8220;What were we thinking putting quotation marks around the word &#8216;war&#8217;!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a disgrace that we couldn&#039;t come up with some sort of due process.I appreciate the difficulties inherent in doing this with suspects who if simply deported could well become combatants (possibly again...). But I don&#039;t think it was worth sacrificing our ideals. The measure of the worth of our ideals is whether we stick by them when it&#039;s hard, not when it&#039;s easy,

And I think 20 years from now we&#039;ll be saying different things about Guantanamo than about the war on terror. No need to have the same opinion on both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a disgrace that we couldn&#8217;t come up with some sort of due process.I appreciate the difficulties inherent in doing this with suspects who if simply deported could well become combatants (possibly again&#8230;). But I don&#8217;t think it was worth sacrificing our ideals. The measure of the worth of our ideals is whether we stick by them when it&#8217;s hard, not when it&#8217;s easy,</p>
<p>And I think 20 years from now we&#8217;ll be saying different things about Guantanamo than about the war on terror. No need to have the same opinion on both.</p>
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