Comments on: Obama Selects Rick Warren for Invocation http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Obama Selects Warren for Invocation « Much ado about… http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-433428 Obama Selects Warren for Invocation « Much ado about… Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:59:07 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-433428 [...] that don’t fully see America the same way as he does. Nevermind a middle ground. - - via Donklephant: This isn’t going to make gay rights activists happy. Barack Obama has selected evangelical [...] [...] that don’t fully see America the same way as he does. Nevermind a middle ground. – - via Donklephant: This isn’t going to make gay rights activists happy. Barack Obama has selected evangelical [...]

]]> By: Agnostick http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432795 Agnostick Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:47:04 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432795 Rick Warren's probably an okay guy... but as owner of a major NSC (National Stadium Church) franchise, I'm not placing too much stock in bonafide <i>spirituality</i>. Like Bakker and Swaggert before him, it's just a matter of time before Warren is found "In flagrante delicto." The more these types talk about Hell, the closer they seem to enjoy sitting to the fireplace... ifyaknow whatI'msayin'! ;) Agnostick agnostick@excite.com Rick Warren’s probably an okay guy… but as owner of a major NSC (National Stadium Church) franchise, I’m not placing too much stock in bonafide spirituality. Like Bakker and Swaggert before him, it’s just a matter of time before Warren is found “In flagrante delicto.”

The more these types talk about Hell, the closer they seem to enjoy sitting to the fireplace… ifyaknow whatI’msayin’! ;)

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]]> By: Donklephant » Blog Archive » Why Warren Invocation Is Right Signal For Unity http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432790 Donklephant » Blog Archive » Why Warren Invocation Is Right Signal For Unity Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:05:40 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432790 [...] its face, the Warren pick seems like a slap in the face to the progressive gay movement, and I can understand why this group [...] [...] its face, the Warren pick seems like a slap in the face to the progressive gay movement, and I can understand why this group [...]

]]> By: George Mauer http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432780 George Mauer Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:55:47 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432780 What do you mean rob? That is the only real problem, at least the only problem that I'm willing to acknowledge as being anything but utter stupidity. From what I understand, the concern is that if say the supreme court or something said that gays must be able to get married while the rest of the law remained the same, the structure of it is such that a refusal of a particular church to marry someone could be construed as illegal discrimination. The astoundingly obvious solution is to modify the law so that this is not an issue. Hence the proposal to have everything be a civil union in the state's eyes. As far as I can tell, opposition to this idea is what sifts out the true hate-mongers, and hence not something they like to bring up much. Those of us who support sanity in the meantime have been perfectly satisfied to hurl names and squabble with those same people rather than exposing them with this very clear solution. What do you mean rob? That is the only real problem, at least the only problem that I’m willing to acknowledge as being anything but utter stupidity. From what I understand, the concern is that if say the supreme court or something said that gays must be able to get married while the rest of the law remained the same, the structure of it is such that a refusal of a particular church to marry someone could be construed as illegal discrimination.

The astoundingly obvious solution is to modify the law so that this is not an issue. Hence the proposal to have everything be a civil union in the state’s eyes. As far as I can tell, opposition to this idea is what sifts out the true hate-mongers, and hence not something they like to bring up much. Those of us who support sanity in the meantime have been perfectly satisfied to hurl names and squabble with those same people rather than exposing them with this very clear solution.

]]> By: rob http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432737 rob Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:08:35 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432737 <blockquote>In addition, he says equal rights for all and he says he’s worried about churches being forced to preform gay weddings. </blockquote> if he is really worried about churches being forced to do gay weddings, he is a moron and should be disqualified for that.

In addition, he says equal rights for all and he says he’s worried about churches being forced to preform gay weddings.

if he is really worried about churches being forced to do gay weddings, he is a moron and should be disqualified for that.

]]> By: mike mcEachran http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432736 mike mcEachran Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:54:39 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432736 George - I tend to agree with you. (I'm one of the gays, FYI) George – I tend to agree with you. (I’m one of the gays, FYI)

]]> By: George Mauer http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432735 George Mauer Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:48:11 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432735 I don't see what the big deal is. He's giving an invocation not presiding over ... well ... over anything. In addition, as far as evangelical preachers go he's quite milquetoast. In addition, he says equal rights for all and he says he's worried about churches being forced to preform gay weddings. This is basically the conclusion that many commentators reached in the discussion following prop 8 - that marriage maybe should be only a religious term and civic unions be the only legal nomenclature. I don't know too much about this guy but maybe we should play nice with him, he might not be as demonic as some like to make out. I don’t see what the big deal is. He’s giving an invocation not presiding over … well … over anything. In addition, as far as evangelical preachers go he’s quite milquetoast.

In addition, he says equal rights for all and he says he’s worried about churches being forced to preform gay weddings. This is basically the conclusion that many commentators reached in the discussion following prop 8 – that marriage maybe should be only a religious term and civic unions be the only legal nomenclature.

I don’t know too much about this guy but maybe we should play nice with him, he might not be as demonic as some like to make out.

]]> By: Jimmy the Dhimmi http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432734 Jimmy the Dhimmi Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:41:28 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432734 Then again, he is one of these young, hip pastors who believes that using the power of government to help the poor through a socialist, planned economy is very Christian-like. Maybe by throwing his weight behind a president that will make the legality of Abortion permanent through his judiciary appointments, he is saying, "well at least they will be <em>socially just</em> abortions, because they will be taxpayer funded." That's something Jesus could get behind! Then again, he is one of these young, hip pastors who believes that using the power of government to help the poor through a socialist, planned economy is very Christian-like. Maybe by throwing his weight behind a president that will make the legality of Abortion permanent through his judiciary appointments, he is saying, “well at least they will be socially just abortions, because they will be taxpayer funded.” That’s something Jesus could get behind!

]]> By: mike mcEachran http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432733 mike mcEachran Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:28:29 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432733 Sure he's a "nice evangelical", but if you press him, he still thinks half of his audience is going to burn in hell for eternity. Although if you read his stuff, I have a feeling he doesn't really think that - he tends to skirt the issue so he doesn't turn off his "hell-bent" base. Anyone have any info on that? The hell thing is a big issue for me - that issue kind of devides the sheep from the goats in my mind. Sure he’s a “nice evangelical”, but if you press him, he still thinks half of his audience is going to burn in hell for eternity. Although if you read his stuff, I have a feeling he doesn’t really think that – he tends to skirt the issue so he doesn’t turn off his “hell-bent” base. Anyone have any info on that? The hell thing is a big issue for me – that issue kind of devides the sheep from the goats in my mind.

]]> By: EvilPoet http://donklephant.com/2008/12/18/obama-selects-rick-warren-for-invocation/comment-page-1/#comment-432731 EvilPoet Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:06:03 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=12196#comment-432731 That olive branch has thorns. OUCH. The Rick Warren pick is not sitting very well with this straight atheist either. I hope the opinions I have read are correct and this is much ado about nothing. That olive branch has thorns. OUCH. The Rick Warren pick is not sitting very well with this straight atheist either. I hope the opinions I have read are correct and this is much ado about nothing.

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