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		<title>By: Nell Gumby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nell Gumby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Terrence C 

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&quot;The US has been completely ineffective in the war against terror – the attacks increase every year in scope and volume. Despite all the tough talk, the political ass covering, even the long lines at the air port – the philosophy is completely inept.&quot;

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I completely agree with you. Now, 4 years later, despite the capture and killing of Osama Bin Laden, you only have to look back through 4 years of news footage to see the staggering amount of US ineptitude that has unfolded since 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terrence C </p>
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<p>&#8220;The US has been completely ineffective in the war against terror – the attacks increase every year in scope and volume. Despite all the tough talk, the political ass covering, even the long lines at the air port – the philosophy is completely inept.&#8221;</p>
<p>END QUOTE:</p>
<p>I completely agree with you. Now, 4 years later, despite the capture and killing of Osama Bin Laden, you only have to look back through 4 years of news footage to see the staggering amount of US ineptitude that has unfolded since 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerenceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Afghanistan is a NATO activity and not subject to unilateral US action - and the Taliban are still there and increasing in power because we haven&#039;t finished the job. The half-assed activity in Afghanistan has only exacerbated the issues while increasing the regional power of Iran, the drug lords throughout the area, and destabilized any progressive Pashtun leadership that could have helped control the border with Pakistan. Pakistan has been a victim of this war as much as any country - and a weak Afghanistan is a huge part of their problem. I think the recent terror attacks in India only succeeded in moving 4 Pakistani divisions from the Western frontier to the Southern frontier and effectively squashing any possibility of Pakistani pressure on the Pashtun regions in their own country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afghanistan is a NATO activity and not subject to unilateral US action &#8211; and the Taliban are still there and increasing in power because we haven&#8217;t finished the job. The half-assed activity in Afghanistan has only exacerbated the issues while increasing the regional power of Iran, the drug lords throughout the area, and destabilized any progressive Pashtun leadership that could have helped control the border with Pakistan. Pakistan has been a victim of this war as much as any country &#8211; and a weak Afghanistan is a huge part of their problem. I think the recent terror attacks in India only succeeded in moving 4 Pakistani divisions from the Western frontier to the Southern frontier and effectively squashing any possibility of Pakistani pressure on the Pashtun regions in their own country.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/12/21/is-india-getting-ready-to-strike-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-434182</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 04:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No other options are even remotely viable so he spews out moronic strawman scenarios and then proudly claims that you obviously support them. ...When did I say anything about deliberate?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When did I say that W was my Hero or that he was waging the war on Islamic Jihad effectively?  Who is building strawmen here?  

Don&#039;t worry, Obama is now president, and we will go back to fighting terrorism like we fight drugs...Just as John Kerry said, that terrorism was a &quot;nuisance like prostitution or gambling.&quot;  Those killer drugs that pop out of nowhere and consciously fly planes into buildings in the name of Allah.

Terrence, was it a mistake for America to invade Afghanistan and remove the Taliban from power? Whether or not the strategy or tactics were effective, was it right to try?  Because we had to go to war to do it.  Do you support the &lt;em&gt;war&lt;/em&gt; in Afghanistan?  Michael Moore and Ralph Nader do not. Do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No other options are even remotely viable so he spews out moronic strawman scenarios and then proudly claims that you obviously support them. &#8230;When did I say anything about deliberate?</p></blockquote>
<p>When did I say that W was my Hero or that he was waging the war on Islamic Jihad effectively?  Who is building strawmen here?  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Obama is now president, and we will go back to fighting terrorism like we fight drugs&#8230;Just as John Kerry said, that terrorism was a &#8220;nuisance like prostitution or gambling.&#8221;  Those killer drugs that pop out of nowhere and consciously fly planes into buildings in the name of Allah.</p>
<p>Terrence, was it a mistake for America to invade Afghanistan and remove the Taliban from power? Whether or not the strategy or tactics were effective, was it right to try?  Because we had to go to war to do it.  Do you support the <em>war</em> in Afghanistan?  Michael Moore and Ralph Nader do not. Do you?</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy-  &quot; but you really think the United States is deliberately funding Islamic terrorists in Pakistan?&quot;

When did I say anything about deliberate?  The problem is that your idiot hero W didn&#039;t care what they were doing with the money nor ever check and you refuse to hold him or yourself  (for repeatedly voting for him and blindly worshipping him) responsible.  As for the rest of your drivel, anyone smart enough to see that Bush is a complete failure is not some kind of nutcase. Actually, anyone too stupid to realize that everything he tried failed miserably probably is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy-  &#8221; but you really think the United States is deliberately funding Islamic terrorists in Pakistan?&#8221;</p>
<p>When did I say anything about deliberate?  The problem is that your idiot hero W didn&#8217;t care what they were doing with the money nor ever check and you refuse to hold him or yourself  (for repeatedly voting for him and blindly worshipping him) responsible.  As for the rest of your drivel, anyone smart enough to see that Bush is a complete failure is not some kind of nutcase. Actually, anyone too stupid to realize that everything he tried failed miserably probably is.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terence, very well put, unfortunately, Jimmy simply can&#039;t understand anything you or anyone else says.  His glorious hero W, or any other stooge with an R after his name is always right.  No other options are even remotely viable so he spews out moronic strawman scenarios and then proudly claims that you obviously support them.  You would think that after being horribly wrong about almost everything for the last 8 years he would learn to just shut up, but learning is not possible for the truly brainwashed.   Jimmy, why don&#039;t you just rock yourself to sleep by singing Barack The Magic Negro over and over and rolling at your brilliant humor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terence, very well put, unfortunately, Jimmy simply can&#8217;t understand anything you or anyone else says.  His glorious hero W, or any other stooge with an R after his name is always right.  No other options are even remotely viable so he spews out moronic strawman scenarios and then proudly claims that you obviously support them.  You would think that after being horribly wrong about almost everything for the last 8 years he would learn to just shut up, but learning is not possible for the truly brainwashed.   Jimmy, why don&#8217;t you just rock yourself to sleep by singing Barack The Magic Negro over and over and rolling at your brilliant humor?</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerenceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy, The US has been completely ineffective in the war against terror - the attacks increase every year in scope and volume. Despite all the tough talk, the political ass covering, even the long lines at the air port - the philosophy is completely inept. The US war against terror is the same thing as the US war on drugs - ton&#039;s of money spent attacking a hydra; the problems get worse every year and the money becomes a &quot;main stream&quot; part of the economy due to the cure. How many times can they claim to kill the number two guy before you admit that something is really f&#039;d up? I would like to think that there are some responsible policy makers in our government, unfortunately there is no track record of that being the case. The cold war ends and the war on terror begins.  The Republican led US government can only operate when they have an external enemy to focus our defense spending. Otherwise, the &quot;adults&quot; in the government may actually decide that $711 billion a year is simply far too great a cost. Our population suffers due to lack of medical care, poor schools, crumbling roads, an imploding industrial base, a petroleum based economy in need of serious reform - but nobody in government seems to have the political will to fix the problems that are so clear to millions upon millions of Americans. The war on terror is not the sole responsibility of the US tax payer, it is not a military responsibility - it is the responsibility of every freedom loving government throughout the world.  The war on terror is best executed through effective police actions with global coordination - not unilateral military action headed up by an anti-intellectual, narrow minded blow hard from the liberal elite wing of the Republican party.  Every country harboring terrorists is a victim of terrorism, every country fighting terrorists is a victim of terrorism. Both India and Pakistan have suffered from terrorists, and for either country to go to war over something like this is ridiculous. It sounds like a James Bond movie or something - Blowfeld manipulating countries into war so that he can take power in the aftermath. India and Pakistan won&#039;t go to war - they need to work together  (along with the rest of us) to figure out who &quot;Blowfeld&quot; really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy, The US has been completely ineffective in the war against terror &#8211; the attacks increase every year in scope and volume. Despite all the tough talk, the political ass covering, even the long lines at the air port &#8211; the philosophy is completely inept. The US war against terror is the same thing as the US war on drugs &#8211; ton&#8217;s of money spent attacking a hydra; the problems get worse every year and the money becomes a &#8220;main stream&#8221; part of the economy due to the cure. How many times can they claim to kill the number two guy before you admit that something is really f&#8217;d up? I would like to think that there are some responsible policy makers in our government, unfortunately there is no track record of that being the case. The cold war ends and the war on terror begins.  The Republican led US government can only operate when they have an external enemy to focus our defense spending. Otherwise, the &#8220;adults&#8221; in the government may actually decide that $711 billion a year is simply far too great a cost. Our population suffers due to lack of medical care, poor schools, crumbling roads, an imploding industrial base, a petroleum based economy in need of serious reform &#8211; but nobody in government seems to have the political will to fix the problems that are so clear to millions upon millions of Americans. The war on terror is not the sole responsibility of the US tax payer, it is not a military responsibility &#8211; it is the responsibility of every freedom loving government throughout the world.  The war on terror is best executed through effective police actions with global coordination &#8211; not unilateral military action headed up by an anti-intellectual, narrow minded blow hard from the liberal elite wing of the Republican party.  Every country harboring terrorists is a victim of terrorism, every country fighting terrorists is a victim of terrorism. Both India and Pakistan have suffered from terrorists, and for either country to go to war over something like this is ridiculous. It sounds like a James Bond movie or something &#8211; Blowfeld manipulating countries into war so that he can take power in the aftermath. India and Pakistan won&#8217;t go to war &#8211; they need to work together  (along with the rest of us) to figure out who &#8220;Blowfeld&#8221; really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/12/21/is-india-getting-ready-to-strike-pakistan/comment-page-2/#comment-434163</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So instead of anything even remotely resembling reality, you blither forth this gem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
and then you say this:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess you think handing out billions to a terroist supporting brutal dictator equals diplomacy&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So it is realty that the Bush administration went to Musharaf , and now Zadari and says, &quot;take this money and use it only to fund Islamic terrorism.  Do not use it to fight them.&quot;  That&#039;s reality?  Whatever they are trying may not be working, but you really think the United States is deliberately funding Islamic terrorists in Pakistan?  Are you one of these 9/11 conspiracy theorists who thinks the Bush administration worked with the Bin Laden family to take down the WTC?

How do you suggest the United States address the situation of Islamic terrorists who base themselves in Pakistan and launch attacks globally?  Should we work with the leadership of Pakistan to help them fight the terrorists in their midst, or does Pakistan need a decade of sanctions or a regime change like Saddam Hussein? Or do we not do anything and hope terrorists will like us better and leave us alone?  You really have to pick one of those.  If there is another alternative let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So instead of anything even remotely resembling reality, you blither forth this gem.</p></blockquote>
<p>and then you say this:</p>
<blockquote><p>I guess you think handing out billions to a terroist supporting brutal dictator equals diplomacy</p></blockquote>
<p>So it is realty that the Bush administration went to Musharaf , and now Zadari and says, &#8220;take this money and use it only to fund Islamic terrorism.  Do not use it to fight them.&#8221;  That&#8217;s reality?  Whatever they are trying may not be working, but you really think the United States is deliberately funding Islamic terrorists in Pakistan?  Are you one of these 9/11 conspiracy theorists who thinks the Bush administration worked with the Bin Laden family to take down the WTC?</p>
<p>How do you suggest the United States address the situation of Islamic terrorists who base themselves in Pakistan and launch attacks globally?  Should we work with the leadership of Pakistan to help them fight the terrorists in their midst, or does Pakistan need a decade of sanctions or a regime change like Saddam Hussein? Or do we not do anything and hope terrorists will like us better and leave us alone?  You really have to pick one of those.  If there is another alternative let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, where to start Jimmy.  I guess you think handing out billions to a terroist supporting brutal dictator equals diplomacy.  No wonder you think Bush is a great president.

&quot;Either America cuts off all foreign aid and diplomatic ties to every Islamic country in the world, or we invade all of them militarily. Those must be the only solutions. Or we could just accept terrorism as an inevitability and blame ourselves and die. Geoplolitics is so damn simple.&quot;--  So instead of anything even remotely resembling reality, you blither forth this gem.  

Bottom line, if you could hear anything but your own droning horse manure, is that we should try actual diplomacy instead of bribery and support of terrorist scum.

Now, resume your tired rants of talking points that have failed so miserably over and over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, where to start Jimmy.  I guess you think handing out billions to a terroist supporting brutal dictator equals diplomacy.  No wonder you think Bush is a great president.</p>
<p>&#8220;Either America cuts off all foreign aid and diplomatic ties to every Islamic country in the world, or we invade all of them militarily. Those must be the only solutions. Or we could just accept terrorism as an inevitability and blame ourselves and die. Geoplolitics is so damn simple.&#8221;&#8211;  So instead of anything even remotely resembling reality, you blither forth this gem.  </p>
<p>Bottom line, if you could hear anything but your own droning horse manure, is that we should try actual diplomacy instead of bribery and support of terrorist scum.</p>
<p>Now, resume your tired rants of talking points that have failed so miserably over and over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/12/21/is-india-getting-ready-to-strike-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-433928</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its so simple, I never thought of it that way david.  If America just didn&#039;t try to use diplomacy to find a way to fight terrorism, none of this would happen.  

Either America cuts off all foreign aid and diplomatic ties to every Islamic country in the world, or we invade all of them militarily. Those must be the only solutions.  Or we could just accept terrorism as an inevitability and blame ourselves and die.  Geoplolitics is so damn simple.

Oh ya, and its not the Islamists fault themselves, it is Bush&#039;s fault because Pakistani Muslims can never be held morally responsible for what they do because they have no capacity to be inspired by fanatic religious ideology.  Only white people or Jews like Bush and Ariel Sharon have the intelectual capacity for that kind of thing.

...I don&#039;t want to hear another word about talking with Iran coming out of your keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its so simple, I never thought of it that way david.  If America just didn&#8217;t try to use diplomacy to find a way to fight terrorism, none of this would happen.  </p>
<p>Either America cuts off all foreign aid and diplomatic ties to every Islamic country in the world, or we invade all of them militarily. Those must be the only solutions.  Or we could just accept terrorism as an inevitability and blame ourselves and die.  Geoplolitics is so damn simple.</p>
<p>Oh ya, and its not the Islamists fault themselves, it is Bush&#8217;s fault because Pakistani Muslims can never be held morally responsible for what they do because they have no capacity to be inspired by fanatic religious ideology.  Only white people or Jews like Bush and Ariel Sharon have the intelectual capacity for that kind of thing.</p>
<p>&#8230;I don&#8217;t want to hear another word about talking with Iran coming out of your keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Donâ€™t worry, Terrence. Only a few more mass murders by Pakistani terror groups operating with impunity within Pakistan, unmolested by their own government which has already been significantly infiltrated by Islamists&quot;

&quot;Pakistan is the one doing wrong here, because every Pakistani authority figure knows exactly where the problem is coming from and completely refuses to do anything about it&quot;

Jimmy, did it occur to you that the reason both of those statements are true is because of the blithering idiot in the white house handing untold billions to the terrorist supporting government of Pakistan?  You know the guy, you worship and adore him, voted for him twice and would again in a heartbeat.  Maybe you should shut your yap since your votes directly caused this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Donâ€™t worry, Terrence. Only a few more mass murders by Pakistani terror groups operating with impunity within Pakistan, unmolested by their own government which has already been significantly infiltrated by Islamists&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Pakistan is the one doing wrong here, because every Pakistani authority figure knows exactly where the problem is coming from and completely refuses to do anything about it&#8221;</p>
<p>Jimmy, did it occur to you that the reason both of those statements are true is because of the blithering idiot in the white house handing untold billions to the terrorist supporting government of Pakistan?  You know the guy, you worship and adore him, voted for him twice and would again in a heartbeat.  Maybe you should shut your yap since your votes directly caused this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: JF17_Thunder</title>
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		<dc:creator>JF17_Thunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After failure of Indian govt. and security agencies, they are so confused that they (specially mukherjee) are eating their own words each day. First they were planning to teach Pakistan a lesson and started deploying their army, but then they cried wolf by saying that &#039;war is not the solution but Pakistan has dangerous intentions&#039;... Funny!
During this hustle and bustle, Indian govt. and media ignored Interpol&#039;s comments about their baseless blame over Pakistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After failure of Indian govt. and security agencies, they are so confused that they (specially mukherjee) are eating their own words each day. First they were planning to teach Pakistan a lesson and started deploying their army, but then they cried wolf by saying that &#8216;war is not the solution but Pakistan has dangerous intentions&#8217;&#8230; Funny!<br />
During this hustle and bustle, Indian govt. and media ignored Interpol&#8217;s comments about their baseless blame over Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: The Boxer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Boxer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear friends Pakistan itself has been a victom of terrorism ever since it came into independence. Most of terrorist activities within Pakistan are undoubtedly linked to Indian agencies esp the rogue Indian Intelligence agency RAW. Presently Indian agencies are involved in providing logistic support and training to Taliban fighters operating against Pakistan in tribal areas as well as masterminding and supporting separatist movement in Bauchistan province. Furthermore Indian agents are already in the custody of Islamabad police in connection with recent  bombing of Marriott Hotel, Islamabad. Even today three RAW agents were caught in Lahore alongwith explosives planning to blow up important installations in Lahore. So it is not the ISI but RAW which is involved in terrorism, with the sole purpose of destabilizing Pakistan.

On the question of whether India is ready to strike Pakistan or not, i think this would be one of the biggest political and military blunders of the century. We don&#039;t want war but if war is imposed on us then we are ready to defend our motherland till the last drop of blood in our bodies. Living peacefully with our neighbours has always been the desire of this nation but this should not be considered as our weakness in any way. Talking of surgical strikes on Pakistani soil suits well to those suffering from mania but any sensible person would not even think of this because of its dire consequences. Any such attempt would mean a full blown war between the two countries. Pakistan and India are two nuclear states now and the war of today would be very different from those fought in the past and can resullt in complete devastation for both countries and the whole region. So my advice to those planning surgical strikes inside Pakistani territory is that, they should refrain from commiting such a blunder otherwise the magnitude of retaliation would be such that Indians would remember it for centuries to come.

At the end i hope good sense would prevail on both sides and both countries would stop this blame game and learn to live happily together because a war would bring nothing but misery to the poor people of both the countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear friends Pakistan itself has been a victom of terrorism ever since it came into independence. Most of terrorist activities within Pakistan are undoubtedly linked to Indian agencies esp the rogue Indian Intelligence agency RAW. Presently Indian agencies are involved in providing logistic support and training to Taliban fighters operating against Pakistan in tribal areas as well as masterminding and supporting separatist movement in Bauchistan province. Furthermore Indian agents are already in the custody of Islamabad police in connection with recent  bombing of Marriott Hotel, Islamabad. Even today three RAW agents were caught in Lahore alongwith explosives planning to blow up important installations in Lahore. So it is not the ISI but RAW which is involved in terrorism, with the sole purpose of destabilizing Pakistan.</p>
<p>On the question of whether India is ready to strike Pakistan or not, i think this would be one of the biggest political and military blunders of the century. We don&#8217;t want war but if war is imposed on us then we are ready to defend our motherland till the last drop of blood in our bodies. Living peacefully with our neighbours has always been the desire of this nation but this should not be considered as our weakness in any way. Talking of surgical strikes on Pakistani soil suits well to those suffering from mania but any sensible person would not even think of this because of its dire consequences. Any such attempt would mean a full blown war between the two countries. Pakistan and India are two nuclear states now and the war of today would be very different from those fought in the past and can resullt in complete devastation for both countries and the whole region. So my advice to those planning surgical strikes inside Pakistani territory is that, they should refrain from commiting such a blunder otherwise the magnitude of retaliation would be such that Indians would remember it for centuries to come.</p>
<p>At the end i hope good sense would prevail on both sides and both countries would stop this blame game and learn to live happily together because a war would bring nothing but misery to the poor people of both the countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Ive actually spent significant time in the Bangalore/Mysore area, more than a year on-and-off, and I speak a little Kannada.  If you are trying to say that people don&#039;t board their windows up and are constantly in a state of fear of being killed by terrorists at any moment, then fine. But neither do Israelis or Iraqis for that matter.  You talk to a typical hindu in private about Islamic terrorism and you will find they have a heck of a lot lot to say.  Perhaps its ingrained in hindu culture to accept tragedy as it comes, but this isn&#039;t a natural disaster and people are getting fed up.  Thats why BJP has emerged from obscurity to become such a huge political force over the past 15 years

My point is that I&#039;m just sick of people requiring that one must maintain his victimhood status in order have &quot;moral authority;&quot;  that countries like America, Israel, India, or even Thailand should not fight back against the source of wanton destruction in the name of Allah, because &lt;em&gt;&quot;thats just what the terrorists want you to do.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; F#%k that.

Pakistan is the one doing wrong here, because every Pakistani authority figure knows exactly where the problem is coming from and completely refuses to do anything about it as long as the targets are external.  The only reason why India should restrain from direct military action is a tactical, not a moral one.  Are there other more diplomatic ways to coax the Pakistani government to perform its solemn duty as a sovereign nation and persecute the trans-national terrorists in their midst?  Well, try them.  Because, in the end, if Pakistan doesn&#039;t get its ass in gear and do what its supposed to do, then India, as well as every other country who is plagued by Islamic terrorism rooted there has the moral authority to do it for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Ive actually spent significant time in the Bangalore/Mysore area, more than a year on-and-off, and I speak a little Kannada.  If you are trying to say that people don&#8217;t board their windows up and are constantly in a state of fear of being killed by terrorists at any moment, then fine. But neither do Israelis or Iraqis for that matter.  You talk to a typical hindu in private about Islamic terrorism and you will find they have a heck of a lot lot to say.  Perhaps its ingrained in hindu culture to accept tragedy as it comes, but this isn&#8217;t a natural disaster and people are getting fed up.  Thats why BJP has emerged from obscurity to become such a huge political force over the past 15 years</p>
<p>My point is that I&#8217;m just sick of people requiring that one must maintain his victimhood status in order have &#8220;moral authority;&#8221;  that countries like America, Israel, India, or even Thailand should not fight back against the source of wanton destruction in the name of Allah, because <em>&#8220;thats just what the terrorists want you to do.&#8221;</em> F#%k that.</p>
<p>Pakistan is the one doing wrong here, because every Pakistani authority figure knows exactly where the problem is coming from and completely refuses to do anything about it as long as the targets are external.  The only reason why India should restrain from direct military action is a tactical, not a moral one.  Are there other more diplomatic ways to coax the Pakistani government to perform its solemn duty as a sovereign nation and persecute the trans-national terrorists in their midst?  Well, try them.  Because, in the end, if Pakistan doesn&#8217;t get its ass in gear and do what its supposed to do, then India, as well as every other country who is plagued by Islamic terrorism rooted there has the moral authority to do it for them.</p>
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		<title>By: shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess we indians have had enough of this terrorism, pakistan has been harbouring terrorists ever since they came into existence, we never wanted was as if we wanted it we would have done it a long time back, it was pakistan every time who imposed war on us recently kargil to be precise, and for everyone who don&#039;t know just a few days after the mumbai terror attacks,today only the indian security forces caught three terrorists from kashmir who were planning to strike a hotel in true fidayeen style &quot;one of them happens to be a serving pakistani armyman&quot; but the irony is that even when the american and the british secret service know that pakistan has been supporting terrorism still they go on giving them financial help, recently british prime minister mr.gordon announced and aid for pakistan to fight terrorists on their soil just a few days after the mumbai attacks, and today our navy has been put on high alert as their are intelligence reports that some militants are planning to take down one of our warships using a limpet mine. we indians have had enough of this, honestly speaking if i were given an oppurtunity to go on a secret mission to pakistan i would accept it with a smile, and not only me i guess every indian is tired and frustrated of this nonsense so i guess it is high time that our government did something or it won&#039;t be long till the people of the republic of india take matters into their own hands, if we can make governments then we can break them too.
we want to live a peaceful and safe life but that could only happen if pakistan stops promoting terrorism but all they can talk about is how they are going to bomb us with  a nuclear warhead as if they have fogotten what kind of consequences happen when you stike with a nuclear weapon on a country which already has more nuclear bombs in its arsenal than pakistan will ever have keeping in mind their gdp growth which next to none.
jai hind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess we indians have had enough of this terrorism, pakistan has been harbouring terrorists ever since they came into existence, we never wanted was as if we wanted it we would have done it a long time back, it was pakistan every time who imposed war on us recently kargil to be precise, and for everyone who don&#8217;t know just a few days after the mumbai terror attacks,today only the indian security forces caught three terrorists from kashmir who were planning to strike a hotel in true fidayeen style &#8220;one of them happens to be a serving pakistani armyman&#8221; but the irony is that even when the american and the british secret service know that pakistan has been supporting terrorism still they go on giving them financial help, recently british prime minister mr.gordon announced and aid for pakistan to fight terrorists on their soil just a few days after the mumbai attacks, and today our navy has been put on high alert as their are intelligence reports that some militants are planning to take down one of our warships using a limpet mine. we indians have had enough of this, honestly speaking if i were given an oppurtunity to go on a secret mission to pakistan i would accept it with a smile, and not only me i guess every indian is tired and frustrated of this nonsense so i guess it is high time that our government did something or it won&#8217;t be long till the people of the republic of india take matters into their own hands, if we can make governments then we can break them too.<br />
we want to live a peaceful and safe life but that could only happen if pakistan stops promoting terrorism but all they can talk about is how they are going to bomb us with  a nuclear warhead as if they have fogotten what kind of consequences happen when you stike with a nuclear weapon on a country which already has more nuclear bombs in its arsenal than pakistan will ever have keeping in mind their gdp growth which next to none.<br />
jai hind</p>
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		<title>By: True_yank</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/12/21/is-india-getting-ready-to-strike-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-433570</link>
		<dc:creator>True_yank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I believe, which is also a fact, that Pakistan can hardly afford a war at this time....We all know its on the verge of being collapsed...Internal elements with in itself are waiting to tale over it ... India is mature enough to avoid a millitary adventure ... It doesn&#039;t need it ...  Pakistan is finding it hard to cope with the problems on the western front ... Its a great diplomatic weapon &quot;PATIENCE&quot; that the Indians need to show... And regarding the Military might of India .... Indian Military is far more stronger and Mightier than their Pakistani counterparts... Pakis can just talk tough and hope that a military option dont come in the minds of the Indian administration ..Belive me, its far more stronger and sophisticated than the magazines and newspapers suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I believe, which is also a fact, that Pakistan can hardly afford a war at this time&#8230;.We all know its on the verge of being collapsed&#8230;Internal elements with in itself are waiting to tale over it &#8230; India is mature enough to avoid a millitary adventure &#8230; It doesn&#8217;t need it &#8230;  Pakistan is finding it hard to cope with the problems on the western front &#8230; Its a great diplomatic weapon &#8220;PATIENCE&#8221; that the Indians need to show&#8230; And regarding the Military might of India &#8230;. Indian Military is far more stronger and Mightier than their Pakistani counterparts&#8230; Pakis can just talk tough and hope that a military option dont come in the minds of the Indian administration ..Belive me, its far more stronger and sophisticated than the magazines and newspapers suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerenceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 03:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy - You ever been to India? Believe me, they don&#039;t live in fear of terror attacks. I still have no idea what you were trying to say othwerwise.....you could have just stood there with your hands on your hips and said &quot;Oh yea.......&quot; Indy, nice comments, glad you could have something constructive to say - tell me what you think of the human race, I&#039;d like an outsiders opinion..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy &#8211; You ever been to India? Believe me, they don&#8217;t live in fear of terror attacks. I still have no idea what you were trying to say othwerwise&#8230;..you could have just stood there with your hands on your hips and said &#8220;Oh yea&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221; Indy, nice comments, glad you could have something constructive to say &#8211; tell me what you think of the human race, I&#8217;d like an outsiders opinion..</p>
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		<title>By: ExiledIndependent</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/12/21/is-india-getting-ready-to-strike-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-433531</link>
		<dc:creator>ExiledIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One would have hoped that Obama&#039;s historic election would have assuaged some of Terence&#039;s Bush aggro.  T, just take deep breaths and repeat after me: &quot;Hope.  Change.  Hope.  Change.&quot;  It will make everything better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One would have hoped that Obama&#8217;s historic election would have assuaged some of Terence&#8217;s Bush aggro.  T, just take deep breaths and repeat after me: &#8220;Hope.  Change.  Hope.  Change.&#8221;  It will make everything better.</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its payback time , Pakistan will be made to answer this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its payback time , Pakistan will be made to answer this time.</p>
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		<title>By: MumbaiWala</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/12/21/is-india-getting-ready-to-strike-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-433475</link>
		<dc:creator>MumbaiWala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Qaiser k
Does your homeland include the Kashmiri Pandits that have been raped and hounded out of their homes by your religious brothers?
Supported by the pakis ofcourse..</description>
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Does your homeland include the Kashmiri Pandits that have been raped and hounded out of their homes by your religious brothers?<br />
Supported by the pakis ofcourse..</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/12/21/is-india-getting-ready-to-strike-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-433473</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;India will lose the moral high ground if it does (unless Singh canâ€™t keep the hawks in his administration tethered). Imagine a Sikh dressed up like a cowboy but instead of a cowboy hat heâ€™s wearing a turban saying â€œwanted dead or aliveâ€. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Don&#039;t worry, Terrence.  Only a few more mass murders by Pakistani terror groups operating with impunity within Pakistan, unmolested by their own government which has already been significantly infiltrated by Islamists, and India will get the message.  

Don&#039;t push back you might create &quot;instablility&quot;  (Instability within the Indian populace who live in fear of the next terror attack doesn&#039;t count).  Meanwhile, India must address the root causes of terrorism, like the occupation of Palestine, offensive cartoons, and...well..being Hindu, and all the violence will, at least become manageable, or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>India will lose the moral high ground if it does (unless Singh canâ€™t keep the hawks in his administration tethered). Imagine a Sikh dressed up like a cowboy but instead of a cowboy hat heâ€™s wearing a turban saying â€œwanted dead or aliveâ€. </p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Terrence.  Only a few more mass murders by Pakistani terror groups operating with impunity within Pakistan, unmolested by their own government which has already been significantly infiltrated by Islamists, and India will get the message.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t push back you might create &#8220;instablility&#8221;  (Instability within the Indian populace who live in fear of the next terror attack doesn&#8217;t count).  Meanwhile, India must address the root causes of terrorism, like the occupation of Palestine, offensive cartoons, and&#8230;well..being Hindu, and all the violence will, at least become manageable, or not.</p>
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