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	<title>Comments on: New Study: Virginity Pledges Don&#8217;t Work</title>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 05:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s posts like this one that make me think that dim is such an understatement. Broad, sweeping generalizations and the constant use of words like socialist prove nothing except something about the person writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s posts like this one that make me think that dim is such an understatement. Broad, sweeping generalizations and the constant use of words like socialist prove nothing except something about the person writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/12/29/new-study-virginity-pledges-dont-work/comment-page-1/#comment-434315</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its time for the government to use tax payer money to distribute condoms to 13 &amp; 14 year olds in public schools.  Also, brochures entitled, &quot;The Ins and Outs of Anal Sex&quot; are needed. Isn&#039;t that what this study proves?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think a lack of sexual knowledge and a lack of openness to discuss sex is really at the heart of this...I guess itâ€™s easier and cheaper to talk about sex then it is to talk about helping the poor&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So stop talking about helping the poor and start talking about sex, or stop talking about sex and start talking about helping the poor?  I don&#039;t get it.

And when you say &quot;helping the poor,&quot; you mean government bureaucracy-mediated socialist wealth redistribution and welfare, not charity or economic growth, correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its time for the government to use tax payer money to distribute condoms to 13 &amp; 14 year olds in public schools.  Also, brochures entitled, &#8220;The Ins and Outs of Anal Sex&#8221; are needed. Isn&#8217;t that what this study proves?</p>
<blockquote><p>I think a lack of sexual knowledge and a lack of openness to discuss sex is really at the heart of this&#8230;I guess itâ€™s easier and cheaper to talk about sex then it is to talk about helping the poor</p></blockquote>
<p>So stop talking about helping the poor and start talking about sex, or stop talking about sex and start talking about helping the poor?  I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>And when you say &#8220;helping the poor,&#8221; you mean government bureaucracy-mediated socialist wealth redistribution and welfare, not charity or economic growth, correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s obvious that the pledge itself doesn&#039;t cause people to not have sex, so if you control for other variables (like religiosity perhaps), it&#039;s not surprising that its found to have no affect.  The pledge is an outward expression of an inner conviction.  But it is disturbing that those who pledge are more likely to not use safe practices.   But again, I think the pledge itself doesn&#039;t do much.

Seriousness aside, perhaps we could have a pledge like this:

&quot;I pledge to save myself for marriage, but buy a condom just in case.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s obvious that the pledge itself doesn&#8217;t cause people to not have sex, so if you control for other variables (like religiosity perhaps), it&#8217;s not surprising that its found to have no affect.  The pledge is an outward expression of an inner conviction.  But it is disturbing that those who pledge are more likely to not use safe practices.   But again, I think the pledge itself doesn&#8217;t do much.</p>
<p>Seriousness aside, perhaps we could have a pledge like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;I pledge to save myself for marriage, but buy a condom just in case.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerenceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a personal choice - nothing more than that. To create a movement based upon a pledge to deny a normal biological function strikes me as ridiculous, but then again I got married very young - presumably because I couldn&#039;t wait to get my hands on those..... At any rate, I think a lack of sexual knowledge and a lack of openness to discuss sex is really at the heart of this. The US is a sexually repressed society by global standards - we equate nudity to sex - we focus on peoples sexual problems, their sexual peccadillos, sex scandals, sex, sex, sex - but rarely a healthy discussion about sex. Only discussions involving sin, perversion, life style choices. I guess it&#039;s easier and cheaper to talk about sex then it is to talk about helping the poor - and then mobilizing to actually do something about it. Helping the infirmed or the aged, and then mobilizing to do something about it. Organizing to effect change to help the less fortunate members of society and then going after the problems must just be too hard because very few religious organizations do it - they just focus on lifestyle issues, because it&#039;s easier and seems to &quot;press&quot; every emotional button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a personal choice &#8211; nothing more than that. To create a movement based upon a pledge to deny a normal biological function strikes me as ridiculous, but then again I got married very young &#8211; presumably because I couldn&#8217;t wait to get my hands on those&#8230;.. At any rate, I think a lack of sexual knowledge and a lack of openness to discuss sex is really at the heart of this. The US is a sexually repressed society by global standards &#8211; we equate nudity to sex &#8211; we focus on peoples sexual problems, their sexual peccadillos, sex scandals, sex, sex, sex &#8211; but rarely a healthy discussion about sex. Only discussions involving sin, perversion, life style choices. I guess it&#8217;s easier and cheaper to talk about sex then it is to talk about helping the poor &#8211; and then mobilizing to actually do something about it. Helping the infirmed or the aged, and then mobilizing to do something about it. Organizing to effect change to help the less fortunate members of society and then going after the problems must just be too hard because very few religious organizations do it &#8211; they just focus on lifestyle issues, because it&#8217;s easier and seems to &#8220;press&#8221; every emotional button.</p>
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