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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/01/20/quote-of-the-day-71/comment-page-1/#comment-435373</link>
		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike those weren&#039;t Justin&#039;s exact words. But the implication from the following statement can&#039;t be missesd:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Because thereâ€™s absolutely no doubt in my mind that President Obama wouldnâ€™t have been possible if not for The Decider.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obama would not have won if not for Bush&#039;s incompetence. Got it? No matter what other things Obama has done or said, no matter what qualities he may possess, no matter what other circumstances and dynamics existed, Obama could not (in Justin&#039;s mind) have been elected had not GW Bush been an incompetent boob. That&#039;s what he said. And THAT is what I object to.

if you can&#039;t see that, you&#039;re not trying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike those weren&#8217;t Justin&#8217;s exact words. But the implication from the following statement can&#8217;t be missesd:</p>
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Because thereâ€™s absolutely no doubt in my mind that President Obama wouldnâ€™t have been possible if not for The Decider.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama would not have won if not for Bush&#8217;s incompetence. Got it? No matter what other things Obama has done or said, no matter what qualities he may possess, no matter what other circumstances and dynamics existed, Obama could not (in Justin&#8217;s mind) have been elected had not GW Bush been an incompetent boob. That&#8217;s what he said. And THAT is what I object to.</p>
<p>if you can&#8217;t see that, you&#8217;re not trying.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kranky,

Nobody said it was the only reason except you. When I read through the post, I don&#039;t see this implied either. Of course there are many reasons Obama won and some were independent of his own actions.  A good example is the mismanagement of Hillary Clinton&#039;s campaign during the primaries.  To state that her mismanagement of her campaign as a factor for his success is, likewise not an insult to Obama.  

If it was stated as the only reason I would agree it would be an insult.  I just don&#039;t see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kranky,</p>
<p>Nobody said it was the only reason except you. When I read through the post, I don&#8217;t see this implied either. Of course there are many reasons Obama won and some were independent of his own actions.  A good example is the mismanagement of Hillary Clinton&#8217;s campaign during the primaries.  To state that her mismanagement of her campaign as a factor for his success is, likewise not an insult to Obama.  </p>
<p>If it was stated as the only reason I would agree it would be an insult.  I just don&#8217;t see that.</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/01/20/quote-of-the-day-71/comment-page-1/#comment-435335</link>
		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike  you really don&#039;t understand why it&#039;s an insult to maintain that Obama ascended to the Presidency only due to the incompetence of the previous Republican President?

An insult to who? To Obama, for starters, who apparently would never have been elected without the necessary boost provided by W. It&#039;s also an insult to all the folks who voted for him. Apparently we would not have done so if Bush had only done a better job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike  you really don&#8217;t understand why it&#8217;s an insult to maintain that Obama ascended to the Presidency only due to the incompetence of the previous Republican President?</p>
<p>An insult to who? To Obama, for starters, who apparently would never have been elected without the necessary boost provided by W. It&#8217;s also an insult to all the folks who voted for him. Apparently we would not have done so if Bush had only done a better job.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike A.</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/01/20/quote-of-the-day-71/comment-page-1/#comment-435327</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Kranky,

Why is this an insult?  And to whom?  I agree with Justin there&#039;s a possibility that if this country&#039;s status were similar to any of the previous 4 elections, it would be difficult for Obama to have been elected.  

I also agree with you that the country needs to stop focusing on GW and look forward. The emotions have been high and the attacks have gone on long enough. Hopefully with the inauguration over, this will happen.  Let history and future generations define Bush&#039;s legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Kranky,</p>
<p>Why is this an insult?  And to whom?  I agree with Justin there&#8217;s a possibility that if this country&#8217;s status were similar to any of the previous 4 elections, it would be difficult for Obama to have been elected.  </p>
<p>I also agree with you that the country needs to stop focusing on GW and look forward. The emotions have been high and the attacks have gone on long enough. Hopefully with the inauguration over, this will happen.  Let history and future generations define Bush&#8217;s legacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine if you will, the following scenario:

In 2003, Robert Gates was the SecDef, and General Patreus was the Commander of Forces for Iraq before we went in.  We had a plan to win the peace, and didn&#039;t try to leave Iraq while there was a power vacuum and the insurgency never happened.  By the end of 2003, Iraq was as peaceful as it is now, and there were only a few hundred U.S. casualties.  There is no reason why this couldn&#039;t have happened.

Well, every Democrat would have tried to &quot;out-hawk&quot; the other during the 2004 primary, Joe Biden, Hilary Clinton, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi et al would have flaunted their pro war stance to this day, and Barack Obama&#039;s political career would have ended before it began.

Should we therefore thank Bush for invading and then screwing up in Iraq?  Were those 4000 dead G.I.s and the 10s of thousands of Iraqi civilians a worthy sacrifice to bring this &quot;lightworker&quot; to power in Washington?  Kind of morbid when you put it that way, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine if you will, the following scenario:</p>
<p>In 2003, Robert Gates was the SecDef, and General Patreus was the Commander of Forces for Iraq before we went in.  We had a plan to win the peace, and didn&#8217;t try to leave Iraq while there was a power vacuum and the insurgency never happened.  By the end of 2003, Iraq was as peaceful as it is now, and there were only a few hundred U.S. casualties.  There is no reason why this couldn&#8217;t have happened.</p>
<p>Well, every Democrat would have tried to &#8220;out-hawk&#8221; the other during the 2004 primary, Joe Biden, Hilary Clinton, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi et al would have flaunted their pro war stance to this day, and Barack Obama&#8217;s political career would have ended before it began.</p>
<p>Should we therefore thank Bush for invading and then screwing up in Iraq?  Were those 4000 dead G.I.s and the 10s of thousands of Iraqi civilians a worthy sacrifice to bring this &#8220;lightworker&#8221; to power in Washington?  Kind of morbid when you put it that way, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Because thereâ€™s absolutely no doubt in my mind that President Obama wouldnâ€™t have been possible if not for The Decider.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow. Just WOW. What a stunning insult to deliver on the day of Obama&#039;s inauguration.

Even on day 1 of the Obama administration, it&#039;s still about GW Bush. Sad. C&#039;mon folks, here&#039;s our chance to move on and just stop talking about GW. It&#039;s a new day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because thereâ€™s absolutely no doubt in my mind that President Obama wouldnâ€™t have been possible if not for The Decider.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow. Just WOW. What a stunning insult to deliver on the day of Obama&#8217;s inauguration.</p>
<p>Even on day 1 of the Obama administration, it&#8217;s still about GW Bush. Sad. C&#8217;mon folks, here&#8217;s our chance to move on and just stop talking about GW. It&#8217;s a new day.</p>
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