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	<title>Comments on: Obama To Send 17,000 Troops To Afghanistan</title>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, one of the unstated reasons why the Bush admin decided to get involved in Iraq was because of how unlikely it was that we&#039;d be able to substantively reform Afghanistan. In other words, we figured we had  a decent shot of reforming Iraq &lt;i&gt;in comparison to&lt;/i&gt; our chances in Afghanistan. IOW, we invaded Iraq so we&#039;d have a chance at putting one in the win column in response to 9/11.

Afghanistan exists as an entity primarily due to the political machinations of various bickering nations, some or even many with imperial aspirations. I wish more folks would think long and hard about how unlikely it is that Afghanistan would ever have emerged as an entity on its own, due the shared aspirations of its populace.

As we speak, America and other nations are on the verge of adopting the foolish position of wanting a stable, democratic, unified Afghanistan more than the various factions who live there. So I hope we seriously limit our involvement and keep our goals and expectations low.

Sadly, once most Presidents toss some of their own chips into a pot, they have  overwhelmingly strong subsequent impulses to double down regardless of what cards come on the flop. If Obama has any skill at poker, he&#039;ll know that what matters is what&#039;s in the pot, and that the goal is to win the game, not the hand. And that  what the audience thinks of you is not that relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, one of the unstated reasons why the Bush admin decided to get involved in Iraq was because of how unlikely it was that we&#8217;d be able to substantively reform Afghanistan. In other words, we figured we had  a decent shot of reforming Iraq <i>in comparison to</i> our chances in Afghanistan. IOW, we invaded Iraq so we&#8217;d have a chance at putting one in the win column in response to 9/11.</p>
<p>Afghanistan exists as an entity primarily due to the political machinations of various bickering nations, some or even many with imperial aspirations. I wish more folks would think long and hard about how unlikely it is that Afghanistan would ever have emerged as an entity on its own, due the shared aspirations of its populace.</p>
<p>As we speak, America and other nations are on the verge of adopting the foolish position of wanting a stable, democratic, unified Afghanistan more than the various factions who live there. So I hope we seriously limit our involvement and keep our goals and expectations low.</p>
<p>Sadly, once most Presidents toss some of their own chips into a pot, they have  overwhelmingly strong subsequent impulses to double down regardless of what cards come on the flop. If Obama has any skill at poker, he&#8217;ll know that what matters is what&#8217;s in the pot, and that the goal is to win the game, not the hand. And that  what the audience thinks of you is not that relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: ExiledIndependent</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExiledIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Obama made any statements about what his view of success in Afghanistan looks like?  Not being cute here, I just haven&#039;t seen anything and have a genuine interest.  Hoping that he&#039;s learned from the failure of Bush on this front, and has a specific, well-articulated concept of what the end-game looks like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Obama made any statements about what his view of success in Afghanistan looks like?  Not being cute here, I just haven&#8217;t seen anything and have a genuine interest.  Hoping that he&#8217;s learned from the failure of Bush on this front, and has a specific, well-articulated concept of what the end-game looks like.</p>
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