Comments on: Republican Demands Obama Email Accountability? http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: John Milligan http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436917 John Milligan Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:29:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436917 CTO actuually has been punted to OMB e-Gov head - Vivek Kundra. People confuse Records Management with throwing Technology at the problem under a CTO. If it is not thought out properly in terms of records, technology actually makes records management worse. That is what happened to Clinton and the White House in the last 10 years. They had all the latest and greatest in Technology Apps and gurus to implement but they failed to fully assess their records and empower a records manager in the information life-cycle planning to make sure records were properly captured and managed per the law. Making the CTO the Records Manager would just continue this charade. The Records Manager needs to be at the table and embedded in the front end of the Content Management process to make this thing work. This is true at the White House as it is in all Government Agencies and all business/orgs actually. Very Very few actually do it well or half way competently. The White House gets the press but open up the paper folks - it's widespread and worse all over. CTO actuually has been punted to OMB e-Gov head – Vivek Kundra. People confuse Records Management with throwing Technology at the problem under a CTO. If it is not thought out properly in terms of records, technology actually makes records management worse. That is what happened to Clinton and the White House in the last 10 years. They had all the latest and greatest in Technology Apps and gurus to implement but they failed to fully assess their records and empower a records manager in the information life-cycle planning to make sure records were properly captured and managed per the law. Making the CTO the Records Manager would just continue this charade. The Records Manager needs to be at the table and embedded in the front end of the Content Management process to make this thing work. This is true at the White House as it is in all Government Agencies and all business/orgs actually. Very Very few actually do it well or half way competently. The White House gets the press but open up the paper folks – it’s widespread and worse all over.

]]> By: Justin Gardner http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436895 Justin Gardner Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:22:32 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436895 Kranky, respectfully, if I wrote multiple posts about this then you may have a point about me getting "caught up." But I didn't and I'm not. The end. John, that's actually a great idea, but I know Obama said he'd create a position for a national "Chief Technical Officer" so I think that person may be able to either fill that role or create some common sense framework to keep 21st century records. Kranky, respectfully, if I wrote multiple posts about this then you may have a point about me getting “caught up.” But I didn’t and I’m not. The end.

John, that’s actually a great idea, but I know Obama said he’d create a position for a national “Chief Technical Officer” so I think that person may be able to either fill that role or create some common sense framework to keep 21st century records.

]]> By: Rich Horton http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436876 Rich Horton Sun, 22 Feb 2009 04:37:57 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436876 Amen Kranky Amen Kranky

]]> By: John Milligan http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436862 John Milligan Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:32:58 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436862 Nobody knows how to manage and preserve this records stuff. All Admins have failed miserably at this. What this country needs (and esp the White House) is a White House mandated National Records Manager. Then you will get some decent transparency/accountability. Nobody knows how to manage and preserve this records stuff. All Admins have failed miserably at this. What this country needs (and esp the White House) is a White House mandated National Records Manager. Then you will get some decent transparency/accountability.

]]> By: Mike A. http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436804 Mike A. Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:38:08 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436804 agreed agreed

]]> By: Jeremy from NJ http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436802 Jeremy from NJ Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:23:47 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436802 Well said Kranky Kritter Well said Kranky Kritter

]]> By: kranky kritter http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436800 kranky kritter Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:36:08 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436800 As an episode like this so richly illustrates, ideological partisanship applies one type of consistency while creating inconsistency along another axis. Standards for administration behavior are right at the top of the list of things where the parties exchange their views alongside the exchange of the oval office. So actions like Issa's are so common that they are barely worth noticing. Since I'm not a partisan for either party, I can afford to care about the issue. My point really is that I am happy to cheerfully acknowledge the clowny shamelessness of Issa on this point, but that it really isn't what folks at a place called Donklephant should get caught up in. I'm more interested in establishing a sensible communications archiving policy for ALL admins to follow. That Issa has taken a stand 180 degrees opposite his precious one actually presents people who care about the issue with an opportunity to establish a sensible policy, right? Isn't that a more satisfying outcome than settling for "here's another example of a republican who is an ideological partisan douche?" Surely you know as well as I that for every Issa there's a democrat who lost interest in this issue on 11/05/08. As an episode like this so richly illustrates, ideological partisanship applies one type of consistency while creating inconsistency along another axis. Standards for administration behavior are right at the top of the list of things where the parties exchange their views alongside the exchange of the oval office.

So actions like Issa’s are so common that they are barely worth noticing. Since I’m not a partisan for either party, I can afford to care about the issue.

My point really is that I am happy to cheerfully acknowledge the clowny shamelessness of Issa on this point, but that it really isn’t what folks at a place called Donklephant should get caught up in. I’m more interested in establishing a sensible communications archiving policy for ALL admins to follow.

That Issa has taken a stand 180 degrees opposite his precious one actually presents people who care about the issue with an opportunity to establish a sensible policy, right? Isn’t that a more satisfying outcome than settling for “here’s another example of a republican who is an ideological partisan douche?”

Surely you know as well as I that for every Issa there’s a democrat who lost interest in this issue on 11/05/08.

]]> By: Mike A. http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436793 Mike A. Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:43:35 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436793 KK, Inconsistent douche or ideological douche? The first implies the ability to weigh information and change position based on findings. The second - not so much. I agree he's right now, but he appears to choose his rightness to coincide with his ideology. KK,
Inconsistent douche or ideological douche? The first implies the ability to weigh information and change position based on findings. The second – not so much. I agree he’s right now, but he appears to choose his rightness to coincide with his ideology.

]]> By: kranky kritter http://donklephant.com/2009/02/20/republican-demands-obama-email-accountability/comment-page-1/#comment-436790 kranky kritter Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:16:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=13707#comment-436790 OK, so this guy is an inconsistent douche. I'll stipulate that. But who cares? He was either right then, or he's right now. Which is it, do you think? I'm inclined to believe that one way or another sooner or later a system ought to be in place to archive all this stuff. In other words, he was wrong then, but he's probably right now. Right? OK, so this guy is an inconsistent douche. I’ll stipulate that. But who cares? He was either right then, or he’s right now. Which is it, do you think?

I’m inclined to believe that one way or another sooner or later a system ought to be in place to archive all this stuff. In other words, he was wrong then, but he’s probably right now. Right?

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