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	<title>Comments on: Obama Derangement Syndrome Redux</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/03/31/obama-derangement-syndrome-redux-2/comment-page-1/#comment-440573</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post.  With the utter absence of any credible candidate on the R side, coupled with a fierce Obama campaign machine, Obama could essentially phone in the 2012 re-election should the GOP not get their act together.

Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.  With the utter absence of any credible candidate on the R side, coupled with a fierce Obama campaign machine, Obama could essentially phone in the 2012 re-election should the GOP not get their act together.</p>
<p>Jake</p>
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		<title>By: Loviatar</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/03/31/obama-derangement-syndrome-redux-2/comment-page-1/#comment-440571</link>
		<dc:creator>Loviatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ASC,

&lt;i&gt;The point Loviatar is missing is that it really doesnâ€™t matter how righteous your anger is â€” it matters that you canâ€™t control that anger. &lt;/i&gt;

Please provide me with an example of where the &quot;BDS&quot; crowd - left or non left - lost control in regards to Bush. I can point to any number of examples where the CDS crowd lost control in regards to Clinton (the most obvious being impeachment), but other than Cindy Sheenan&#039;s actions, which I think we all can say had a justifiable reasons, I can&#039;t think off hand of any where the BDS crowd lost control.

Now Republicans like to portray anger at Bush as BDS and a loss of control because they can then dismiss it as not worthy of address and by equating it to CDS and now ODS this is what Justin has done. Your comment is a furthering of that dismissal - oh they can&#039;t control themselves, so why should we listen to them or take them seriously.

I would think after the last few months, as the ethical and legal actions of the Bush administration has been proven to be at fault, that the Republicans would be a little less in denial on the righteousness of the anger held towards Bush, but I see that was wishful thinking.

John Cole had a saying, which is now a category on his site - DFH (the Dirty Fucking Hippies was right), I wish more sites like this which claim to be even handed or moderate would make more use of the saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASC,</p>
<p><i>The point Loviatar is missing is that it really doesnâ€™t matter how righteous your anger is â€” it matters that you canâ€™t control that anger. </i></p>
<p>Please provide me with an example of where the &#8220;BDS&#8221; crowd &#8211; left or non left &#8211; lost control in regards to Bush. I can point to any number of examples where the CDS crowd lost control in regards to Clinton (the most obvious being impeachment), but other than Cindy Sheenan&#8217;s actions, which I think we all can say had a justifiable reasons, I can&#8217;t think off hand of any where the BDS crowd lost control.</p>
<p>Now Republicans like to portray anger at Bush as BDS and a loss of control because they can then dismiss it as not worthy of address and by equating it to CDS and now ODS this is what Justin has done. Your comment is a furthering of that dismissal &#8211; oh they can&#8217;t control themselves, so why should we listen to them or take them seriously.</p>
<p>I would think after the last few months, as the ethical and legal actions of the Bush administration has been proven to be at fault, that the Republicans would be a little less in denial on the righteousness of the anger held towards Bush, but I see that was wishful thinking.</p>
<p>John Cole had a saying, which is now a category on his site &#8211; DFH (the Dirty Fucking Hippies was right), I wish more sites like this which claim to be even handed or moderate would make more use of the saying.</p>
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		<title>By: TerenceC</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/03/31/obama-derangement-syndrome-redux-2/comment-page-1/#comment-440570</link>
		<dc:creator>TerenceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No - it isn&#039;t too much to ask - it should be just an expectation. Who wouldn&#039;t love to be in the Congress or the Senate - what an honor. So why are there so many dishonorable people in public office? The ideals and the reality appear to be in a constant state of struggle. 

I get the impression that those in public office don&#039;t want anyone on the outside to understand what&#039;s really going on, who&#039;s really calling the shots, who&#039;s in charge. They barely teach civics and government in the grade and high schools these days. This works to the decided advantage of those in public office because the electorate doesn&#039;t know enough about government to ask the right questions, or to hold these clown accountable - and they sure as hell aren&#039;t getting any help from the media. 

One of the dirty little secrets no one wants to admit is that Bush got re-elected because an under educated, under informed, overly stimulated populace believes it only has two choices in a national election - and doesn&#039;t demand anything better because it doesn&#039;t know it is allowed to make those demands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No &#8211; it isn&#8217;t too much to ask &#8211; it should be just an expectation. Who wouldn&#8217;t love to be in the Congress or the Senate &#8211; what an honor. So why are there so many dishonorable people in public office? The ideals and the reality appear to be in a constant state of struggle. </p>
<p>I get the impression that those in public office don&#8217;t want anyone on the outside to understand what&#8217;s really going on, who&#8217;s really calling the shots, who&#8217;s in charge. They barely teach civics and government in the grade and high schools these days. This works to the decided advantage of those in public office because the electorate doesn&#8217;t know enough about government to ask the right questions, or to hold these clown accountable &#8211; and they sure as hell aren&#8217;t getting any help from the media. </p>
<p>One of the dirty little secrets no one wants to admit is that Bush got re-elected because an under educated, under informed, overly stimulated populace believes it only has two choices in a national election &#8211; and doesn&#8217;t demand anything better because it doesn&#8217;t know it is allowed to make those demands.</p>
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		<title>By: ExiledIndependent</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/03/31/obama-derangement-syndrome-redux-2/comment-page-1/#comment-440568</link>
		<dc:creator>ExiledIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always hated the argument that EVERYONE (in politics) is a narcissist, EVERYONE lies.  So that makes it ok?  Part of the &quot;problem&quot; is that we&#039;ve lowered our expectations.  Hopefully this is coming to a tipping point where as an electorate we&#039;re holding all of our representatives to a realistically higher standard.  Be honest.  Be humble.  Represent your constituents.  Uphold the word, spirit, and intent of the law.  Is that REALLY too much to ask?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always hated the argument that EVERYONE (in politics) is a narcissist, EVERYONE lies.  So that makes it ok?  Part of the &#8220;problem&#8221; is that we&#8217;ve lowered our expectations.  Hopefully this is coming to a tipping point where as an electorate we&#8217;re holding all of our representatives to a realistically higher standard.  Be honest.  Be humble.  Represent your constituents.  Uphold the word, spirit, and intent of the law.  Is that REALLY too much to ask?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/03/31/obama-derangement-syndrome-redux-2/comment-page-1/#comment-440564</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Trescml. The point Loviatar is missing is that it really doesn&#039;t matter how righteous your anger is -- it matters that you can&#039;t control that anger. The vast majority of us only listen to angry people if we already agree with them. No one has ever changed my mind by yelling at me or calling me a sheeple or otherwise demeaning my intelligence and character. When you lose the ability to talk to anyone but the people who feel exactly the same as you do, then you&#039;re going to lose elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Trescml. The point Loviatar is missing is that it really doesn&#8217;t matter how righteous your anger is &#8212; it matters that you can&#8217;t control that anger. The vast majority of us only listen to angry people if we already agree with them. No one has ever changed my mind by yelling at me or calling me a sheeple or otherwise demeaning my intelligence and character. When you lose the ability to talk to anyone but the people who feel exactly the same as you do, then you&#8217;re going to lose elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Trescml</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trescml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can be cathartic to jump up and down and scream (and I&#039;ve done it too), but I have never influenced anyone by doing so.   Politically when you can tie your opponent to over the top comments you can do serious damage (Michelle Bachmann being one recent example).   You can compare people to Hitler, but doesn&#039;t change the way anyone thinks and reduces any cogent argument that you may make down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be cathartic to jump up and down and scream (and I&#8217;ve done it too), but I have never influenced anyone by doing so.   Politically when you can tie your opponent to over the top comments you can do serious damage (Michelle Bachmann being one recent example).   You can compare people to Hitler, but doesn&#8217;t change the way anyone thinks and reduces any cogent argument that you may make down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/03/31/obama-derangement-syndrome-redux-2/comment-page-1/#comment-440527</link>
		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snoop, I&#039;m surprised you find that contention even remotely controversial. I think the over-the-top demonization of Bush by the left DEFINITELY helped him with moderates. 

Justin did not in fact say  that doing this was part of an ingenious plan by Bush. YOU said that. If you try, if you bother to read what folks say, maybe you can do better than to put dumb-sounding inaccurate paraphrases in someone else&#039;s mouth, and then use that as a basis for wondering what they are smoking.

Colossally weak comment on your part, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snoop, I&#8217;m surprised you find that contention even remotely controversial. I think the over-the-top demonization of Bush by the left DEFINITELY helped him with moderates. </p>
<p>Justin did not in fact say  that doing this was part of an ingenious plan by Bush. YOU said that. If you try, if you bother to read what folks say, maybe you can do better than to put dumb-sounding inaccurate paraphrases in someone else&#8217;s mouth, and then use that as a basis for wondering what they are smoking.</p>
<p>Colossally weak comment on your part, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: SD3</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/03/31/obama-derangement-syndrome-redux-2/comment-page-1/#comment-440515</link>
		<dc:creator>SD3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It was dumb when the left did it to Bush and itâ€™s just as dumb now.&lt;/em&gt;

The why did you do it?

&lt;em&gt;...one of the dirty little secrets that nobody wants to admit is that Bush got re-elected because he was so despised by the left that Rove was able to turn that into a plus and marginalize the opposition.&lt;/em&gt;

Oh, &lt;strong&gt; riiiiight&lt;/strong&gt;, that unbelievable dunce, evil genius, Hitler-clone George Bush ingeniously got re-elected by making everyone hate him so much.  Keep toking, you&#039;re almost there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It was dumb when the left did it to Bush and itâ€™s just as dumb now.</em></p>
<p>The why did you do it?</p>
<p><em>&#8230;one of the dirty little secrets that nobody wants to admit is that Bush got re-elected because he was so despised by the left that Rove was able to turn that into a plus and marginalize the opposition.</em></p>
<p>Oh, <strong> riiiiight</strong>, that unbelievable dunce, evil genius, Hitler-clone George Bush ingeniously got re-elected by making everyone hate him so much.  Keep toking, you&#8217;re almost there.</p>
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		<title>By: Loviatar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loviatar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another damm equivalency post!!

So, based on your post; getting a blowjob (CDS) = war of choice / destroy economy (BDS) = getting elected (ODS).

Wow, if you look at it like that the bar is set pretty low when it comes to being deranged about a Democratic President, yet having a little justifiable anger about a Republican President gets you automatically tagged as deranged.

You know what frustrates about this post, is that by equating CDS = BDS = ODS you&#039;ve denied the righteous anger held by many Americans at the ethical, moral and yes criminal mess that Bush has made of this country. 

Many non-lefties hate Bush not because we are deranged, but because he was an unqualified frat boy who did not have the decency to admit he was in over his head and through his actions has caused great harm to our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another damm equivalency post!!</p>
<p>So, based on your post; getting a blowjob (CDS) = war of choice / destroy economy (BDS) = getting elected (ODS).</p>
<p>Wow, if you look at it like that the bar is set pretty low when it comes to being deranged about a Democratic President, yet having a little justifiable anger about a Republican President gets you automatically tagged as deranged.</p>
<p>You know what frustrates about this post, is that by equating CDS = BDS = ODS you&#8217;ve denied the righteous anger held by many Americans at the ethical, moral and yes criminal mess that Bush has made of this country. </p>
<p>Many non-lefties hate Bush not because we are deranged, but because he was an unqualified frat boy who did not have the decency to admit he was in over his head and through his actions has caused great harm to our country.</p>
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