Comments on: Is Joe Biden As Bad As People Say? http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kevin http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/comment-page-1/#comment-456622 Kevin Sun, 03 May 2009 02:05:44 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=14669#comment-456622 Insane in SF- I know this is the talking point but... Give me reasons (other than he believes in things differently than you) that makes Biden a dumbass, Based on the posts I've read by you I think your crown is secure. Insane in SF-

I know this is the talking point but…

Give me reasons (other than he believes in things differently than you) that makes Biden a dumbass, Based on the posts I’ve read by you I think your crown is secure.

]]> By: SaneInSF http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/comment-page-1/#comment-456466 SaneInSF Sun, 03 May 2009 00:22:29 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=14669#comment-456466 There's no need to paint Biden anything. He is a walking disaster. He's the biggest dumbass out there -- and it's funny to look back at all the Democrats praising Obama's pick last year. All hat and no cattle. Hilarious. Heck of job, Obamie! There’s no need to paint Biden anything. He is a walking disaster. He’s the biggest dumbass out there — and it’s funny to look back at all the Democrats praising Obama’s pick last year. All hat and no cattle.

Hilarious.

Heck of job, Obamie!

]]> By: Simon http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/comment-page-1/#comment-456247 Simon Sat, 02 May 2009 14:35:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=14669#comment-456247 <blockquote>Supreme court confirmations are always ludicrous — on all sides. The game is: pin the tail on the abortion. If you can be shown to be pro-choice the Right goes ape. If you’re demonstrably pro-life ditto the Left.</blockquote> I'll agree with that. Justice Scalia put it well in his <i>Casey</i> dissent: "<i>Roe</i> fanned into life an issue that has inflamed our national politics in general, and has obscured with its smoke the selection of Justices to this Court in particular, ever since." This effect--the corruption of the nomination process and the distortion of the debate on precedent that <i>Roe-Casey</i> have wrought--isn't the very best among the reasons why those cases must be overruled, but it underlines the point.

Supreme court confirmations are always ludicrous — on all sides. The game is: pin the tail on the abortion. If you can be shown to be pro-choice the Right goes ape. If you’re demonstrably pro-life ditto the Left.

I’ll agree with that. Justice Scalia put it well in his Casey dissent: “Roe fanned into life an issue that has inflamed our national politics in general, and has obscured with its smoke the selection of Justices to this Court in particular, ever since.” This effect–the corruption of the nomination process and the distortion of the debate on precedent that Roe-Casey have wrought–isn’t the very best among the reasons why those cases must be overruled, but it underlines the point.

]]> By: ExiledIndependent http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/comment-page-1/#comment-456244 ExiledIndependent Sat, 02 May 2009 14:00:35 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=14669#comment-456244 I think that Obama has been very intentional with keeping his Vice President in the far background, with little opportunity to upstage him. So our media, being the deeply thoughtful folks that they are, have to pin an archetype on people we see relatively infrequently like Biden. And this is a media flaw, not a right-left thing. I don't think anyone is going to claim that Matt Lauer or Time magazine of having a right-leaning bias. I think that Obama has been very intentional with keeping his Vice President in the far background, with little opportunity to upstage him. So our media, being the deeply thoughtful folks that they are, have to pin an archetype on people we see relatively infrequently like Biden. And this is a media flaw, not a right-left thing. I don’t think anyone is going to claim that Matt Lauer or Time magazine of having a right-leaning bias.

]]> By: Kevin http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/comment-page-1/#comment-456240 Kevin Sat, 02 May 2009 12:47:49 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=14669#comment-456240 I think Bill Maher has it about right. The Republicans "announced that they are against the Democratic nominee as completely unacceptable" and they will let us know why as soon as they know who it is. I think Bill Maher has it about right. The Republicans “announced that they are against the Democratic nominee as completely unacceptable” and they will let us know why as soon as they know who it is.

]]> By: michael reynolds http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/comment-page-1/#comment-456110 michael reynolds Sat, 02 May 2009 05:16:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=14669#comment-456110 Supreme court confirmations are always ludicrous -- on all sides. The game is: pin the tail on the abortion. If you can be shown to be pro-choice the Right goes ape. If you're demonstrably pro-life ditto the Left. We require candidates to lie or at least obfuscate. If you start with Kabuki and hire Senators to play the major roles you don't end up with Shakespeare in the Park. (Hmm, mixing enough metaphors there?) I want Obama to nominate someone loudly pro-choice. Not just because I'm pro-choice, but so that we can cut the crap. My candidate? Oprah. About once a week Scalia would find keys to a new car under his bench. Supreme court confirmations are always ludicrous — on all sides. The game is: pin the tail on the abortion. If you can be shown to be pro-choice the Right goes ape. If you’re demonstrably pro-life ditto the Left.

We require candidates to lie or at least obfuscate. If you start with Kabuki and hire Senators to play the major roles you don’t end up with Shakespeare in the Park. (Hmm, mixing enough metaphors there?)

I want Obama to nominate someone loudly pro-choice. Not just because I’m pro-choice, but so that we can cut the crap.

My candidate? Oprah. About once a week Scalia would find keys to a new car under his bench.

]]> By: Simon http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/comment-page-1/#comment-456034 Simon Sat, 02 May 2009 03:16:49 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=14669#comment-456034 I don't care about the gaffes, honestly. So many of the gaffes ascribed to Biden are "could happen to anyone" moments, and some of them actually humanize him. His reputation with me rests on his behavior during Supreme Court nominations, and his combination of a self-righteous know-it-all attitude about the Constitution with a scanty knowledge of the document and its doctrines. (The latter is the same thing that rubs me the wrong way about Ron Paul supporters - the way they will aggressively and sanctimoniously assert patent nonsense with no basis in text, original meaning, or caselaw as gospel and castigate anyone who tries to point out that they're wrong.) His performance with Bork was of course his main substantive crime, but that puffed-up self-regard and utter lack of a clue was on full display with the Roberts hearings, too. There are very few politicians who I genuinely <i>hate</i>, and astonishingly, Obama (who isn't one of them) managed to pick one of them as veep. I still wish he'd picked Clinton, but then again, I wish she'd beaten him in the primary. I don’t care about the gaffes, honestly. So many of the gaffes ascribed to Biden are “could happen to anyone” moments, and some of them actually humanize him. His reputation with me rests on his behavior during Supreme Court nominations, and his combination of a self-righteous know-it-all attitude about the Constitution with a scanty knowledge of the document and its doctrines. (The latter is the same thing that rubs me the wrong way about Ron Paul supporters – the way they will aggressively and sanctimoniously assert patent nonsense with no basis in text, original meaning, or caselaw as gospel and castigate anyone who tries to point out that they’re wrong.) His performance with Bork was of course his main substantive crime, but that puffed-up self-regard and utter lack of a clue was on full display with the Roberts hearings, too.

There are very few politicians who I genuinely hate, and astonishingly, Obama (who isn’t one of them) managed to pick one of them as veep. I still wish he’d picked Clinton, but then again, I wish she’d beaten him in the primary.

]]> By: Kevin http://donklephant.com/2009/05/01/is-joe-biden-as-bad-as-people-say/comment-page-1/#comment-456010 Kevin Sat, 02 May 2009 03:04:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=14669#comment-456010 Think back to 911, Ashcroft was telling everyone to get on the airlines while BushCo were all flying on private aircraft. Biden was at least honest, so I can see why they go after him. btw, last time I checked overreacting doesn't cost lives but how did Katrina work out when they underreacted? Think back to 911, Ashcroft was telling everyone to get on the airlines while BushCo were all flying on private aircraft. Biden was at least honest, so I can see why they go after him. btw, last time I checked overreacting doesn’t cost lives but how did Katrina work out when they underreacted?

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