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	<title>Comments on: Will Bi-Partisan Team Save Healthcare Reform?</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Commoner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/06/19/will-bi-partisan-team-save-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-489121</link>
		<dc:creator>Commoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>n/a -- your initial point is of course valid, and that sentiment is always present as part of the counter-arguement to any sort of public health care system. However, to your second point - don&#039;t you see that RIGHT NOW we have people telling us when we can see a doctor (and what doctor we can see)? And that those people (the health insurance industry) can drop our coverage anytime they want?  And let&#039;s not kid ourselves - no matter what, people who make a boatload of money will ALWAYS be able to get any surgery done any time, any place, and by any person they want.  

And let&#039;s not kid ourselves that we aren&#039;t ALREADY paying for those who have no health insurance -- it&#039;s called the emergency room. And this will continue to be the case under the present system -- unless of course one supports the notion of simply not administering care to those who arrive at the emergency room without health insurance. That&#039;s a morally bankrupt notion in my opinion, but at least it&#039;s an intellectually honest one in defense of keeping the health care system the way it is now.  

And the &quot;whiner&quot; crack is ridiculous -- depending upon the position of an issue one is on, anyone commenting to the contrary could easily be labeled a whiner (that is to say -- hey n/a, stop whining about how we shouldn&#039;t change the health care system). To your logic, anyone commenting on any blog or website anywhere is a whiner, including me and you and the rest of the Donklephant whiners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n/a &#8212; your initial point is of course valid, and that sentiment is always present as part of the counter-arguement to any sort of public health care system. However, to your second point &#8211; don&#8217;t you see that RIGHT NOW we have people telling us when we can see a doctor (and what doctor we can see)? And that those people (the health insurance industry) can drop our coverage anytime they want?  And let&#8217;s not kid ourselves &#8211; no matter what, people who make a boatload of money will ALWAYS be able to get any surgery done any time, any place, and by any person they want.  </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not kid ourselves that we aren&#8217;t ALREADY paying for those who have no health insurance &#8212; it&#8217;s called the emergency room. And this will continue to be the case under the present system &#8212; unless of course one supports the notion of simply not administering care to those who arrive at the emergency room without health insurance. That&#8217;s a morally bankrupt notion in my opinion, but at least it&#8217;s an intellectually honest one in defense of keeping the health care system the way it is now.  </p>
<p>And the &#8220;whiner&#8221; crack is ridiculous &#8212; depending upon the position of an issue one is on, anyone commenting to the contrary could easily be labeled a whiner (that is to say &#8212; hey n/a, stop whining about how we shouldn&#8217;t change the health care system). To your logic, anyone commenting on any blog or website anywhere is a whiner, including me and you and the rest of the Donklephant whiners.</p>
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		<title>By: n/a</title>
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		<dc:creator>n/a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok... people come from Canada... to get surgeries done ....b/c they have the same health care .....that the blue state want to push thru....what if it was you that needed a surgery ....and they told you ...well....your on the &quot;wait&quot; list .....and if you make it good ....if not ....good ...whats wrong with the health care we have &gt;? we have Great Doctors ...we choose when to see them .... and you want the Government to tell you when you can and cant see a Doctor&gt;? OOOh Yess ....that is what we need....
Buncha  whinners</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230; people come from Canada&#8230; to get surgeries done &#8230;.b/c they have the same health care &#8230;..that the blue state want to push thru&#8230;.what if it was you that needed a surgery &#8230;.and they told you &#8230;well&#8230;.your on the &#8220;wait&#8221; list &#8230;..and if you make it good &#8230;.if not &#8230;.good &#8230;whats wrong with the health care we have &gt;? we have Great Doctors &#8230;we choose when to see them &#8230;. and you want the Government to tell you when you can and cant see a Doctor&gt;? OOOh Yess &#8230;.that is what we need&#8230;.<br />
Buncha  whinners</p>
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		<title>By: the Word</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/06/19/will-bi-partisan-team-save-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-488860</link>
		<dc:creator>the Word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you settle for the lesser of two evils, it&#039;s still evil. Democrats are gutless. If they don&#039;t get it done now, it will never happen. They should then never talk about it again unless they develop a spine and plan to follow through. This is 90% on the Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you settle for the lesser of two evils, it&#8217;s still evil. Democrats are gutless. If they don&#8217;t get it done now, it will never happen. They should then never talk about it again unless they develop a spine and plan to follow through. This is 90% on the Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: gerryf</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerryf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, 76 percent support a PUBLIC OPTION (I was excited)

And Jhimmy, it always scares me when we agree. We cannot blame the GOP (although personally I would like them to be realistic players in the debate so we get a better plan)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, 76 percent support a PUBLIC OPTION (I was excited)</p>
<p>And Jhimmy, it always scares me when we agree. We cannot blame the GOP (although personally I would like them to be realistic players in the debate so we get a better plan)</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/06/19/will-bi-partisan-team-save-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-488851</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health care reform that will actually do anything positive for our country is already dead. All that will be passed is something that will barely make a dent in the problem and give a lot of politicians cover on the issue. It&#039;s a shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health care reform that will actually do anything positive for our country is already dead. All that will be passed is something that will barely make a dent in the problem and give a lot of politicians cover on the issue. It&#8217;s a shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By my last count, there are 59 democrat senators and a supermajority of democrat congressmen, correct?

You can&#039;t blame the republican party for this one this time.  Its those &quot;blue dogs&quot; and those gutless puppets of the insurance and medical supply and drug companies and medical associations who are democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By my last count, there are 59 democrat senators and a supermajority of democrat congressmen, correct?</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t blame the republican party for this one this time.  Its those &#8220;blue dogs&#8221; and those gutless puppets of the insurance and medical supply and drug companies and medical associations who are democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/06/19/will-bi-partisan-team-save-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-488614</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now gerry, please quit beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel. :-)

But do you realize how much trouble health care reform is in? You&#039;re starting to see it slip away yet again. True, their solution may not be the best, but sweeping, transformative change may not be possible this time around. That doesn&#039;t make anybody gutless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now gerry, please quit beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel. :-)</p>
<p>But do you realize how much trouble health care reform is in? You&#8217;re starting to see it slip away yet again. True, their solution may not be the best, but sweeping, transformative change may not be possible this time around. That doesn&#8217;t make anybody gutless.</p>
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		<title>By: ExiledIndependent</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/06/19/will-bi-partisan-team-save-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-488607</link>
		<dc:creator>ExiledIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful about your stats, gerry ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful about your stats, gerry ;)</p>
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		<title>By: gerryf</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/06/19/will-bi-partisan-team-save-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-488603</link>
		<dc:creator>gerryf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are not trying to save healthcare--they are gutless puppets of the insurance and medical supply and drug companies and medical associations trying to mollify a public that is 70+ percent in favor of a single payer system

I wouldn&#039;t cast Tully&#039;s vote for these cowards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are not trying to save healthcare&#8211;they are gutless puppets of the insurance and medical supply and drug companies and medical associations trying to mollify a public that is 70+ percent in favor of a single payer system</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t cast Tully&#8217;s vote for these cowards</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Dale</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/06/19/will-bi-partisan-team-save-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-488583</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health Care reform is so ambitious. I don&#039;t get why Medicare can&#039;t drive cost containment by itself. Doesn&#039;t it pay out 40% of all health bills in US already? Without cost containment, anything to simply expand coverage will simply hasten bankruptcy of US government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health Care reform is so ambitious. I don&#8217;t get why Medicare can&#8217;t drive cost containment by itself. Doesn&#8217;t it pay out 40% of all health bills in US already? Without cost containment, anything to simply expand coverage will simply hasten bankruptcy of US government.</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/06/19/will-bi-partisan-team-save-healthcare-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-488581</link>
		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that the budget deficit scared the Democrats and even the White House that now they have to come up with a Health Care Plan that is under a trillion dollars. Now, all the fuss that the American people about the deficit could end up bitting them in the rear because they might not get the Health Care that they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that the budget deficit scared the Democrats and even the White House that now they have to come up with a Health Care Plan that is under a trillion dollars. Now, all the fuss that the American people about the deficit could end up bitting them in the rear because they might not get the Health Care that they want.</p>
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