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	<title>Comments on: What If Obama Walked Away From Health Care?</title>
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		<title>By: Nick Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/07/30/what-if-obama-walked-away-from-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-529468</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conventional wisdom is always that the party in power will hold on to power. The GOP wasn&#039;t supposed to lose in 2006. The Dems weren&#039;t supposed to lose in 1994. But they did. Half of political science is figuring what was special about those years. 

Remember a lot of the Dems recent victories involved a great ground game. For that to happen you need lots of volunteers, and it&#039;s hard to see where they&#039;ll come from in 2010 even if Obama gets health care passed. There&#039;s no Bush to be angry at anymore. The ground game is usually worth five points.

Another gigantic thing is that in off-years very few people vote. 36.8% turnout in 2006. There&#039;s a large variation across states so in places with no Gubenatorial elections 25% is normal. That 36.8% is disproportionately extremist for the simple reason that extremists tend to be a lot more passionate about elections than moderates. Who do you thinks gonna show up if Obama can&#039;t even get the pissant house program passed? That&#039;s another five points.

I guarantee you CQ&#039;s house ratings aren&#039;t spotting the GOP the ten points they&#039;d be likely to get if Obama walked away from health reform. They probably aren&#039;t spotting the GOP the 5 points they&#039;re almost certain to get without Obama&#039;s ground game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conventional wisdom is always that the party in power will hold on to power. The GOP wasn&#8217;t supposed to lose in 2006. The Dems weren&#8217;t supposed to lose in 1994. But they did. Half of political science is figuring what was special about those years. </p>
<p>Remember a lot of the Dems recent victories involved a great ground game. For that to happen you need lots of volunteers, and it&#8217;s hard to see where they&#8217;ll come from in 2010 even if Obama gets health care passed. There&#8217;s no Bush to be angry at anymore. The ground game is usually worth five points.</p>
<p>Another gigantic thing is that in off-years very few people vote. 36.8% turnout in 2006. There&#8217;s a large variation across states so in places with no Gubenatorial elections 25% is normal. That 36.8% is disproportionately extremist for the simple reason that extremists tend to be a lot more passionate about elections than moderates. Who do you thinks gonna show up if Obama can&#8217;t even get the pissant house program passed? That&#8217;s another five points.</p>
<p>I guarantee you CQ&#8217;s house ratings aren&#8217;t spotting the GOP the ten points they&#8217;d be likely to get if Obama walked away from health reform. They probably aren&#8217;t spotting the GOP the 5 points they&#8217;re almost certain to get without Obama&#8217;s ground game.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/07/30/what-if-obama-walked-away-from-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-528152</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 00:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that meaningful health care reform appears to already be dead who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that meaningful health care reform appears to already be dead who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Benjamin:

Here&#039;s another take form CQ Politics

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32172696/ns/politics-cq_politics/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Benjamin:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another take form CQ Politics</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32172696/ns/politics-cq_politics/" >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32172696/ns/politics-cq_politics/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/07/30/what-if-obama-walked-away-from-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-528122</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 23:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The repercussions would be the same as the time Clinton did it.

The GOP would be energized by their success and vote in droves in the 2010 Congressional elections. Obama&#039;s people would be very disappointing and stay home or vote Green. Why should I work my ass off to get Dems elected if those same DXems aren&#039;t going to work their asses off to fix health care?

Obama himself would be in a somewhat better position than Clinton, as it&#039;s virtually impossible to imagine a scenario that results in a GOP Senate (they&#039;d have to lose all seats that aren&#039;t Dem locks), and Obama already has a domestic policy achievement he can point to in 2012 (the stimulus).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The repercussions would be the same as the time Clinton did it.</p>
<p>The GOP would be energized by their success and vote in droves in the 2010 Congressional elections. Obama&#8217;s people would be very disappointing and stay home or vote Green. Why should I work my ass off to get Dems elected if those same DXems aren&#8217;t going to work their asses off to fix health care?</p>
<p>Obama himself would be in a somewhat better position than Clinton, as it&#8217;s virtually impossible to imagine a scenario that results in a GOP Senate (they&#8217;d have to lose all seats that aren&#8217;t Dem locks), and Obama already has a domestic policy achievement he can point to in 2012 (the stimulus).</p>
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