Comments on: Excerpts From Obama’s Speech On Health Care

By: Kimmie605

Kimmie605 — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 05:55:04 +0000

While I applaud President Obama for taking a stand to fix healthcare in our country, this is a battle that has been going on for some time. I don’t agree with everything in the reform package and my benefits are costing more and delivering less, but maybe this is the first step to getting something done. Everyone is up in arms that this reform package is NOT the way to go – Great, put your thinking caps on and let’s find something that will work!

By: Nick Benjamin

Nick Benjamin — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:15:45 +0000

Clinton’s speech was given at the very beginning of the process. The other guys had months to knock holes in it.

Obama’s speech is towards the end. We know exactly what 80% of the plan will be, and we know that 80% can get through both houses.

We’ve got a debate about the public option. That will be resolved in the next few weeks. When it is there are 59 Dems who won’t filibuster, plus Olympia Snowe. Pelosi can scrounge up 218 votes if she really needs to.

By: Alistair

Alistair — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:54:21 +0000

My bet will be that they will probably use the trigger option that will pass with 60 votes in which Olypmia Snowe will be the 60th.

By: rachel

rachel — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:22:14 +0000

If the only thing Congress does is outlaw recission, I’ll be somewhat happy. If they’re able to do any better than that, I’ll be ecstatic.

By: bubbaquimby

bubbaquimby — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:36:30 +0000

Speeches like this hardly matter. I remember Clinton made a pretty damn good speech for his health care, didn’t do much good.

However, he’ll get something passed but my money is on no public option and either co-ops or the trigger plan.

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Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:56:28 +0000

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By: Alistair

Alistair — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:43:29 +0000

geffyf:

Maybe it was a mistake by going with a single payer but the right wing would have used it to their advantage and President Obama would have been in the same hole as President Clinton.

By: gerryf

gerryf — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:54:24 +0000

I agree with your last sentence Mike, especially after listening to the idiot they trotted out for the counterpoint.

However, I doubt we will ever get anywhere near 80 percent of what we wanted. Obama may indeed be playing the long game, but Presidents rarely have the luxury of the long game. Additionally, he is lying down with the dogs (health insurers and big pharma) on this one, and its only a matter of time before he gets flees.

His first mistake was going to the table without single payer–he gave up his best bargaining chip before he even sat down

By: michael reynolds

michael reynolds — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:39:53 +0000

One of the reasons I suspended my blog was that I figured I’d be spending 4 years writing, “Republicans are idiots, Obama plays the long game, and he’s smarter than you,” over and over. That seemed boring.

Once more, just for the hell of it: He’s smarter than the Republicans. They are Wile E. Coyote and he is the Roadrunner to use Sully’s formulation.

We’ll get 80% of what we wanted. In a couple of years we’ll get the other 20%. And Democrats will have a net gain in the mid-terms.

In the meantime the GOP has made itself the party of howling loons.

By: Alistair

Alistair — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:09:58 +0000

Tonight President Obama just gave a bone to 3 or 4 Republican Senators, Olympia Snowe, Chuck Grassley, Mike Enzi, Susan Collins and possibily John McCain since he endorsed his health care plan that some political watch dogs thought was better than Obama’s Health Care plan. Also tonight he reached out to Independents and Fiscal Conservatives who were very luke warm on his Health Care Plan. People have been saying that President Obama is this radical left wing liberal, he just might be your first true Centerist President that we have since President Dwight Eisenhower.