Comments on: Talk Talk: Obama’s Entanglements Or So What If He Is A Socialist? http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Nancy Hanks http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/comment-page-1/#comment-554840 Nancy Hanks Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:43:25 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=16876#comment-554840 Nick, I couldn't agree with you more and and thanks so much for your comment! Here's my thinking about this: Even IF Barack Obama is a socialist, what's the difference to the American people (never mind the international community)? Have we moved forward? I think we have, but will we continue to move forward? I have dedicated my entire adult life to the proposition that we can move forward, we can be a better people. And I recognize that that's a tough proposition. Suggest you check out independentvoting.org at http://www.independentvoting.org We gotta get outa this place, if it's the last thing we ever do.... See you at the finish-line? Hanks Nick, I couldn’t agree with you more and and thanks so much for your comment!

Here’s my thinking about this: Even IF Barack Obama is a socialist, what’s the difference to the American people (never mind the international community)? Have we moved forward? I think we have, but will we continue to move forward?

I have dedicated my entire adult life to the proposition that we can move forward, we can be a better people. And I recognize that that’s a tough proposition.

Suggest you check out independentvoting.org at http://www.independentvoting.org

We gotta get outa this place, if it’s the last thing we ever do….

See you at the finish-line?
Hanks

]]> By: Nick Benjamin http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/comment-page-1/#comment-553664 Nick Benjamin Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:03:52 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=16876#comment-553664 In practical terms he's right. Whether Obama is a Progressive, Green, Socialist, Social Democrat, even just Center-left doesn't really matter much. Obama's a pragmatist, and to get anything done in the Senate he needs Center-right folks like Ben Nelson and Olympia Snowe. In practical terms he’s right. Whether Obama is a Progressive, Green, Socialist, Social Democrat, even just Center-left doesn’t really matter much. Obama’s a pragmatist, and to get anything done in the Senate he needs Center-right folks like Ben Nelson and Olympia Snowe.

]]> By: Nancy Hanks http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/comment-page-1/#comment-553566 Nancy Hanks Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:03:12 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=16876#comment-553566 Nick -- I hear you and I think that's the market price of socialism these days. Something that Newman was raising in this particular piece as I understand it is that FDR couldn't get everything he wanted, and at that particular moment there was a viable socialist movement in the country, born and bred in the radicalism of the 1930s, the labor movement, the influx of European socialists, many of who were Jews, and American pragmatism, such as it is. The question here is what difference does it make if Obama IS a socialist? Eager to hear more from you. Thanks for your comment!! Nancy Nick — I hear you and I think that’s the market price of socialism these days.

Something that Newman was raising in this particular piece as I understand it is that FDR couldn’t get everything he wanted, and at that particular moment there was a viable socialist movement in the country, born and bred in the radicalism of the 1930s, the labor movement, the influx of European socialists, many of who were Jews, and American pragmatism, such as it is.

The question here is what difference does it make if Obama IS a socialist?

Eager to hear more from you. Thanks for your comment!!
Nancy

]]> By: Nick Benjamin http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/comment-page-1/#comment-553463 Nick Benjamin Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:21:37 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=16876#comment-553463 By any sane definition of Socialist Obama is not Socialist. He wants to raise taxes a bit, and his health care plan is quite a bit left of anything anyone seriously proposed lately. But if that makes him Socialist the entire industrialized world is run by Socialists -- they all tax their rich more than Obama wants to, and have health systems far left of Obama's proposals. By any sane definition of Socialist Obama is not Socialist. He wants to raise taxes a bit, and his health care plan is quite a bit left of anything anyone seriously proposed lately. But if that makes him Socialist the entire industrialized world is run by Socialists — they all tax their rich more than Obama wants to, and have health systems far left of Obama’s proposals.

]]> By: Nancy Hanks http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/comment-page-1/#comment-553462 Nancy Hanks Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:31:18 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=16876#comment-553462 theWord -- point well taken. In retrospect, I think I was hoping for some more substantive comments on the issue of whether Obama is "really" a socialist, or what that has to do with the dialogue right now, and where independent voters are at, and where our country is headed... But a non-sequitur deserves at least another non-non-sequitur, don't you think?? ... Not knowing what any of us are talking about, what do you think about the current political climate? Right now I am working toward a social/political culture of non-partisanship and I think we (the US) are going in a very interesting direction: uncertainty! Let me know what YOU think! NH theWord — point well taken. In retrospect, I think I was hoping for some more substantive comments on the issue of whether Obama is “really” a socialist, or what that has to do with the dialogue right now, and where independent voters are at, and where our country is headed…

But a non-sequitur deserves at least another non-non-sequitur, don’t you think?? … Not knowing what any of us are talking about, what do you think about the current political climate?

Right now I am working toward a social/political culture of non-partisanship and I think we (the US) are going in a very interesting direction: uncertainty!

Let me know what YOU think!
NH

]]> By: theWord http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/comment-page-1/#comment-553335 theWord Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:22:59 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=16876#comment-553335 Paul and Nancy - Not knowing what either of your posts indicate as far as what stand or what company you are talking about my guess is that everyone would agree. :-) Paul and Nancy – Not knowing what either of your posts indicate as far as what stand or what company you are talking about my guess is that everyone would agree. :-)

]]> By: Nancy Hanks http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/comment-page-1/#comment-553077 Nancy Hanks Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:19:52 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=16876#comment-553077 We need to take a stand. We need to take a stand.

]]> By: Paul http://donklephant.com/2009/09/12/talk-talk-obamas-entanglements-or-so-what-if-he-is-a-socialist/comment-page-1/#comment-553072 Paul Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:43:40 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=16876#comment-553072 You can tell what a person is by the company and council he, or she, keeps. You can tell what a person is by the company and council he, or she, keeps.

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