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	<title>Comments on: PricewaterhouseCoopers Backs Away From Insurance Study</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Brain Dead PWC&#8230; Maybe I&#8217;m Not Cynical Enough &#124; Literal Mayhem</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/10/13/pricewaterhousecoopers-backs-away-from-insurance-study/comment-page-1/#comment-564119</link>
		<dc:creator>Brain Dead PWC&#8230; Maybe I&#8217;m Not Cynical Enough &#124; Literal Mayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And PWC is now backing away from the report, saying that &#8212; AT THE REQUEST OF AHIP &#8212; PWC only analyzed a small slice of the bill&#8217;s measures to come up with its conclusions. Politico has a good brief on PWC&#8217;s backtracking, but the ever humorous Donkelphant says it better than LiteralMayhem even could: Allow me to translate, “AHIP asked us [PWC] to conduct an intellectually dishonest study and we di... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And PWC is now backing away from the report, saying that &#8212; AT THE REQUEST OF AHIP &#8212; PWC only analyzed a small slice of the bill&#8217;s measures to come up with its conclusions. Politico has a good brief on PWC&#8217;s backtracking, but the ever humorous Donkelphant says it better than LiteralMayhem even could: Allow me to translate, “AHIP asked us [PWC] to conduct an intellectually dishonest study and we di&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/10/13/pricewaterhousecoopers-backs-away-from-insurance-study/comment-page-1/#comment-563723</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All budget projections are based on &quot;things lining up.&quot;

In this case the non-partisan wonks at the CBO think that if the bill passes things will probably line up such that we shave $81 Billion off the deficit. They&#039;re almost certainly wrong, and IMO probably underestimate the savings, but they do know this budget stuff pretty well and they don&#039;t do partisan spin.

The problem with this particular study is that it does do partisan spin. It makes some pretty dumb assumptions, apparently solely to make the Baucus bill look bad.

Nonetheless they make at least one good point. Baucus penalties for not buying insurance are pathetic. They will not convince people to join the individual market, they will just convince people to bitch about one more tax. Which means the new Exchange will be full of sick people, and insurance from it will cost more than it should.

Those need to be upped. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All budget projections are based on &#8220;things lining up.&#8221;</p>
<p>In this case the non-partisan wonks at the CBO think that if the bill passes things will probably line up such that we shave $81 Billion off the deficit. They&#8217;re almost certainly wrong, and IMO probably underestimate the savings, but they do know this budget stuff pretty well and they don&#8217;t do partisan spin.</p>
<p>The problem with this particular study is that it does do partisan spin. It makes some pretty dumb assumptions, apparently solely to make the Baucus bill look bad.</p>
<p>Nonetheless they make at least one good point. Baucus penalties for not buying insurance are pathetic. They will not convince people to join the individual market, they will just convince people to bitch about one more tax. Which means the new Exchange will be full of sick people, and insurance from it will cost more than it should.</p>
<p>Those need to be upped. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Fn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Fn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is eerily similar to the CBO&#039;s evaluation of the Baucus bill. The CBO said this bill will reduce the national dept over 10 years IF a multiple things line up perfectly in a way they never have in the past. Then the Dems and the fringe media run with it like it&#039;s gospel and they&#039;ve finally got a bill that&#039;s gonna make health insurance affordable. All a bunch of BS. You can&#039;t trust any of these slugs. At least we still get to be thrown in jail if our insurance plan doesn&#039;t measure up to what these tyrant looters say it has too. Nice to know the &quot;right to life&quot; part of the Declaration wasn&#039;t included in the whole hopey changey thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is eerily similar to the CBO&#8217;s evaluation of the Baucus bill. The CBO said this bill will reduce the national dept over 10 years IF a multiple things line up perfectly in a way they never have in the past. Then the Dems and the fringe media run with it like it&#8217;s gospel and they&#8217;ve finally got a bill that&#8217;s gonna make health insurance affordable. All a bunch of BS. You can&#8217;t trust any of these slugs. At least we still get to be thrown in jail if our insurance plan doesn&#8217;t measure up to what these tyrant looters say it has too. Nice to know the &#8220;right to life&#8221; part of the Declaration wasn&#8217;t included in the whole hopey changey thing.</p>
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		<title>By: TrevorF</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrevorF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about using the ballot initiative process as a method of healthcare reform, let the people vote directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about using the ballot initiative process as a method of healthcare reform, let the people vote directly.</p>
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		<title>By: gerryf</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerryf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 01:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You nailed that Agnostick.

This is just further proof that the Republican idea of reform is worth about the same as a bucket with a hole in it. 

Anyone else recall how the Republicans crowed about how the Sarbanes-Oxley Act (and I am quoting President George Bush here was 
&quot;the most far-reaching reforms of American business practices since the time of Franklin D. Roosevelt.&quot;

Remember how it was supposed to restore credibility to accounting practices and oversight of corporations?

The difference between PriceWaterhouseCoopers and Divine Brown; at least Divine Brown was honest about being a prostitute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You nailed that Agnostick.</p>
<p>This is just further proof that the Republican idea of reform is worth about the same as a bucket with a hole in it. </p>
<p>Anyone else recall how the Republicans crowed about how the Sarbanes-Oxley Act (and I am quoting President George Bush here was<br />
&#8220;the most far-reaching reforms of American business practices since the time of Franklin D. Roosevelt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remember how it was supposed to restore credibility to accounting practices and oversight of corporations?</p>
<p>The difference between PriceWaterhouseCoopers and Divine Brown; at least Divine Brown was honest about being a prostitute.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure the republicants will jump all over it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the republicants will jump all over it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnostick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnostick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... which would kind of be like Arthur Andersen saying, &lt;i&gt;&quot;Ken Lay and Andy Fastow asked us to massage Enron&#039;s numbers a bit, which we were happy to do, because they paid handsomely.  But we didn&#039;t realize they were actually going to screw innocent shareholders out of their life savings!  That’s why we’re stepping in and calling BS on them so they don’t destroy our credibility.”&lt;/i&gt;

Little late with that barn door, now the that horse is clear on the other side of the next town, already.

Agnostick
agnostick@excite.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; which would kind of be like Arthur Andersen saying, <i>&#8220;Ken Lay and Andy Fastow asked us to massage Enron&#8217;s numbers a bit, which we were happy to do, because they paid handsomely.  But we didn&#8217;t realize they were actually going to screw innocent shareholders out of their life savings!  That’s why we’re stepping in and calling BS on them so they don’t destroy our credibility.”</i></p>
<p>Little late with that barn door, now the that horse is clear on the other side of the next town, already.</p>
<p>Agnostick<br />
<a href="mailto:agnostick@excite.com">agnostick@excite.com</a></p>
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