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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Nick Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/12/08/dems-reach-health-care-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-586945</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether you verify their numbers or not their argument is self-contradictory. If Medicare costs rise faster than private plans nobody will use it and the buy-in&#039;s contribution to health costs will be trivial.

It&#039;s also slightly dishonest -- the FEHBP doesn&#039;t offer a Medicare buy-in, and the Medicare buy-in is intended to keep costs down by forcing insurance companies to be honest.

BTW, this is the perfect example of why the GOP should have cut a deal with Obama in June &#039;09. In Congress the only strong constituency for cost control is in the GOP.

But the GOP wouldn&#039;t deal, so Obama has to rely on progressives (who see cost-controls largely as a necessary evil), and irrational moderates. As Progressives saw the public option as their main goal, the moderates opposed it, and a potential $1p00 billion savings died.

The right can whine when the other cost controls die if it wants. But everybody who knows this stuff knows that if they really wanted those cost controls all they had to do was tell the tea-partiers to go jump in August.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether you verify their numbers or not their argument is self-contradictory. If Medicare costs rise faster than private plans nobody will use it and the buy-in&#8217;s contribution to health costs will be trivial.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also slightly dishonest &#8212; the FEHBP doesn&#8217;t offer a Medicare buy-in, and the Medicare buy-in is intended to keep costs down by forcing insurance companies to be honest.</p>
<p>BTW, this is the perfect example of why the GOP should have cut a deal with Obama in June &#8217;09. In Congress the only strong constituency for cost control is in the GOP.</p>
<p>But the GOP wouldn&#8217;t deal, so Obama has to rely on progressives (who see cost-controls largely as a necessary evil), and irrational moderates. As Progressives saw the public option as their main goal, the moderates opposed it, and a potential $1p00 billion savings died.</p>
<p>The right can whine when the other cost controls die if it wants. But everybody who knows this stuff knows that if they really wanted those cost controls all they had to do was tell the tea-partiers to go jump in August.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Hagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Early word is that they will offer a pool similar to the Federal Employees Health Benefit Plan ... a &quot;group&quot; of private plans that federal employees get to choose from.  If so, its a spectacularly bad idea:  the FEHBP has higher costs than private insurance, and is anticipated to increase 7.9% this year and 8.8% next year ... while private insurance will increase 5.5% and 6.2%.  Source for this and other disturbing numbers is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/12/09/fehbp-plan-is-no-moderate-compromise/&quot;&gt;Cato.org&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#039;m trying to verify them now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early word is that they will offer a pool similar to the Federal Employees Health Benefit Plan &#8230; a &#8220;group&#8221; of private plans that federal employees get to choose from.  If so, its a spectacularly bad idea:  the FEHBP has higher costs than private insurance, and is anticipated to increase 7.9% this year and 8.8% next year &#8230; while private insurance will increase 5.5% and 6.2%.  Source for this and other disturbing numbers is <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/12/09/fehbp-plan-is-no-moderate-compromise/">Cato.org</a>.  I&#8217;m trying to verify them now.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Hagan</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2009/12/08/dems-reach-health-care-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-586316</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Hagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A trigger mechanism may pull in Olympia Snowe from the GOP side as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A trigger mechanism may pull in Olympia Snowe from the GOP side as well.</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This feels to me like the change that will eventually drag it over the finish line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This feels to me like the change that will eventually drag it over the finish line.</p>
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