Comments on: The Realities Of Passing Health Care & The Risks Of Not http://donklephant.com/2009/12/24/the-realities-of-passing-health-care-the-risks-of-not/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: CJ http://donklephant.com/2009/12/24/the-realities-of-passing-health-care-the-risks-of-not/comment-page-1/#comment-603541 CJ Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:12:58 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=17710#comment-603541 Until the title of a bill reflects 100% of it's content there will be no significant change. Until congressional representatives do not have the option of hiding legislation within legislation no significant change will come. Until they represent the people who elected them instead of special intrests and do the right thing instead of what is politically safe we have no democracy. And stating that you are either a conservative or liberal before you've even heard the question or proposal is a sign that deadlock and stalemates will be the nature of legislation for a long time to come. Get rid of the isle. Seat representatives alphabetically. Call them out for voting their campaign wallets instead of their conscience, and remind them who they represent, (really). Just a start but it's gotta start somewhere. Don't you agree?? Until the title of a bill reflects 100% of it’s content there will be no significant change. Until congressional representatives do not have the option of hiding legislation within legislation no significant change will come. Until they represent the people who elected them instead of special intrests and do the right thing instead of what is politically safe we have no democracy. And stating that you are either a conservative or liberal before you’ve even heard the question or proposal is a sign that deadlock and stalemates will be the nature of legislation for a long time to come.
Get rid of the isle. Seat representatives alphabetically. Call them out for voting their campaign wallets instead of their conscience, and remind them who they represent, (really). Just a start but it’s gotta start somewhere. Don’t you agree??

]]> By: William Crider http://donklephant.com/2009/12/24/the-realities-of-passing-health-care-the-risks-of-not/comment-page-1/#comment-593261 William Crider Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:54:13 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=17710#comment-593261 I agree that this bill does accomplish some reform that is admirable. Such as extending benefits to many lower income individuals. Not allowing denial for preexisting conditions. What is missing that is an easy fix is allowing nationwide competition by plans. Alo no mention of the need tort reform. The major flaws, taxes start immeciately, benefits in 2013, 2014. Requiring states to expand Medicaid (unfunded mandates). Government oversight agencies with unfettered powers. The method of back room deals and not transparency or public input makes me believe it can not stand up to honest debate. I am personally discusted with our political represenatives, I will work against the reelection campaigns of all incumbents. I live in Nevada and Harry Reid, snuck into town in August and would meet with no voters. His telephone town halls were nothing but vey controlled campaign speaches. Health care reform is needed urgently. I am positive that if we took a group of honest citizens we could craft a bill that would meet the needs of the citizens. I personallly worked for 30 years in behavioral healtcare field, have been a patient (victim) of both insurance denials, and Veterans Administration Care. It makes no difference who is in charge of the show they have their own agenda and that is not what patients need. I agree that this bill does accomplish some reform that is admirable.

Such as extending benefits to many lower income individuals. Not allowing denial for preexisting conditions.

What is missing that is an easy fix is allowing nationwide competition by plans. Alo no mention of the need tort reform.

The major flaws, taxes start immeciately, benefits in 2013, 2014. Requiring states to expand Medicaid (unfunded mandates). Government oversight agencies with unfettered powers.

The method of back room deals and not transparency or public input makes me believe it can not stand up to honest debate.

I am personally discusted with our political represenatives, I will work against the reelection campaigns of all incumbents. I live in Nevada and Harry Reid, snuck into town in August and would meet with no voters. His telephone town halls were nothing but vey controlled campaign speaches.

Health care reform is needed urgently. I am positive that if we took a group of honest citizens we could craft a bill that would meet the needs of the citizens.

I personallly worked for 30 years in behavioral healtcare field, have been a patient (victim) of both insurance denials, and Veterans Administration Care. It makes no difference who is in charge of the show they have their own agenda and that is not what patients need.

]]> By: SpkTruth2Pwr http://donklephant.com/2009/12/24/the-realities-of-passing-health-care-the-risks-of-not/comment-page-1/#comment-591653 SpkTruth2Pwr Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:30:14 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=17710#comment-591653 You are very right. Good policy should be about the measures that will work best, but no policy is effective without looking at the tradeoffs, and looking at FEASIBILITY. It was clear that public option was not going to last once it hit the Senate - and I wanted a public option badly - but I do think it is important not to become disillusioned and take this progress we have seen in both the House and Senate for granted. So I say this is a big Christmas gift for America that will pay dividends down the road! You are very right. Good policy should be about the measures that will work best, but no policy is effective without looking at the tradeoffs, and looking at FEASIBILITY.

It was clear that public option was not going to last once it hit the Senate – and I wanted a public option badly – but I do think it is important not to become disillusioned and take this progress we have seen in both the House and Senate for granted.

So I say this is a big Christmas gift for America that will pay dividends down the road!

]]> By: Justin Gardner http://donklephant.com/2009/12/24/the-realities-of-passing-health-care-the-risks-of-not/comment-page-1/#comment-591484 Justin Gardner Fri, 25 Dec 2009 06:04:40 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=17710#comment-591484 Alistair, Exactly. Compromise was key for this legislation and Dems didn't have any other options. That may seem crazy to a lot of liberals, but that's the reality...and welcome to it. :-) Alistair,

Exactly. Compromise was key for this legislation and Dems didn’t have any other options. That may seem crazy to a lot of liberals, but that’s the reality…and welcome to it. :-)

]]> By: Alistair http://donklephant.com/2009/12/24/the-realities-of-passing-health-care-the-risks-of-not/comment-page-1/#comment-591394 Alistair Fri, 25 Dec 2009 02:54:52 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=17710#comment-591394 Justin: Like Ezra Klien Chris Mathews is another person who get it too. He argue that President Obama needed to compromise with Democratic Senators from Red States like Nebraska, Montana, Arkansas, North Dakota, South Dakota and Louisana. Justin:

Like Ezra Klien Chris Mathews is another person who get it too. He argue that President Obama needed to compromise with Democratic Senators from Red States like Nebraska, Montana, Arkansas, North Dakota, South Dakota and Louisana.

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