Yes there was a time when progressives were not radicals. There was a time when Progressives had some good ideas.

That time is long past.

So as the progressives go stand in the corner with their Far right radical friends the rest of us can move forward on getting things done.

Even Liberals in the Democratic party are rejecting the progressive movement as being too radical for the times.

Todays present day progressives cannot lay claim to what was in the past.

If that were true then Democrats are racists and Republicans freed the slaves……..no?

America is a nation of large and medium and small corporations. Even mom and pop form LLC’s or limited Liability Corporations to protect them from people like progressives who want to sue them, legislate them and punish them for making money.

The only one needing to come clean is the progressive movement in this country who wants to nationalize corporations. Legislate and regulate them into a certain standard of behavior which is anathema to the very foundations of America and what WE stand for and what we as a nation value.

Watch and wonder Chris…….Watch while the progressive wish list goes down the tubes as Americans soundly reject their far left and mostly radical ideals as being totally foreign to an America that offers us the highest standard of living in the world……bar none.

We are a nation that gives and gives. While the progressives hollar about helping their idealogical opposites are out actually HELPING. While progressives scream about the need to solve problems their opposites are solving them.

The progressive movement in this country is a failure. Everything it stands for is diametrically opposed to about 70 percent of the rest of Americas wants and dreams.

Flush…………goes the progressive agenda. Thanks Mass. Even LIBERALS REJECT the progressive movement.

I have a peasant mentality.

Your laughing directly at me.

I can see now why the progressives went down the drain. They simply have no clue how to interact with people they disagree with.

2) It is highly likely Obama will spend at least and probably far more than $3 trillion to fight this war– possibly $10 trillion. Some of it will be congressionally approved, some of it will come from other means.

3) As we fight this Econwar and identify the enemy– the econterrorists and pirates– we must retroactively punish them, starting with taking back the plunder they took from companies we are now rescuing.

Yep…yep. Herein lies the mind set of the progressives.

As for me being a peasant? Well I enjoy all the things corporations bring me cause its for sure not going to be ma and pa who is going to build me a bigger and better TV or Computer or internet.

As for regulation, sure its needed….In moderation.

Its pretty plain to see by the above CUT AND PASTE from a progressive blog that moderation aint what they are talking about.

Thats okay. Im used to being laughed at by progressives who think Corporations in America are evil and do evil things and then go to work for a corporation and collect a pay check and vacation and sick leave, and use the health care thats 90 percent paid for by that corporation and they go buy their groceries from a corporation and they buy their car from a corporation.

Then they go home and watch TV brought to you by a corporation and they go to bed and sleep in a bed built by a corporation and they awake to the alarm clock that was made by a corporation and they go drink coffee that was brought……well you get my point.

I never said corporations were good…..I simply said and you reinforced my opinion that progressives believe they are evil because as you put it….they might do evil things.

Such is life in a progressive world.

Take a look at a country that is capitalistic but has lax regulation, say China, for instance. Profit drives their business practices, and guess what, they don’t treat people very nice. They substitute antifreeze for sugar, and dump toxic wastes in the rivers that people drink out of. I don’t see those corporations handing out a lot of “hope”. Give me a break.

My answer to your questions Jim S. is this:

They most likely would not admit they were wrong but the people would vote them out, kick them out and send them a very clear message…….like Virginia, New Jersey and Mass.

Thats how our Republic works.

Massive increases in poverty, unemployment all come with recessions. It is the very nature of building an economy on credit……a promise to pay.

Think about that for a moment……the US GOVERNMENT is USING CREDIT and a PROMISE TO PAY.

Where do you think thats heading?

RECESSION for the US GOVERNMENT. A time in which they MUST PAY BACK WHAT THEY OWE.

ITS TIME>>>>>!!

Here’s a question. If we actually did everything the Republicans proposed and it crashed and burned would they ever admit they were wrong? Or would massive increases in poverty, unemployment, homelessness and hunger count in their eyes as failure so long as corporate profits were good? Yes, that’s a serious question. Another way to phrase it is which matters more, ideology or the facts on the ground?

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As far as corporations and profits. Corporations exist to make a profit. IF they are not making a profit they do not exist……they do a Bear Stearns, A GMC, A CHRYSLER.

People suffer and lose jobs because the corporation cannot make a go of it because the people DO NOT WANT what they sell in sufficient quantities to make the company viable.

Now the government can prop them up but what about in 2 or 3 years when they STILL are not making a profit?

Corporations are not evil. They provide 100,000,000 jobs. They provide health care. They provide sick leave. They provide Family emmergency leave. They provide vacations and hope.

They also make a profit. The people that invest in them because they have a sound business model provide needed capital for the business to expand, make more products and hence hire more people.

Much to the chagrin of the Progressive movement Corporations are NOT evil….they are the very reason America is and fastly become WAS the predominant world force in economy.

But Jim you say Obama’s policies are on sound ground.

Just what are those policies that have actually been implemented?

You see….I see NO policy. I see nothing in place that will solve this recession.

Yes Obama is hiring lots of people for the government……that is amid speculation that he is going to have to cut the deficit and cut spending.

So.

Those are not permanent jobs.

Green.

Green is great….sign me up.

Where are the jobs? The government is trying to make green jobs. BS. Now if you make it profitable for the Green industry to simply start building the infrastructure for green jobs then the industry will take off.

If you wait on the government……10 years from now we might have 500,000 new green jobs all dependent upon a government handout that might or might not continue.

You dont have to legislate and regulate the air we breath. Just make it profitable for GREEN to replace fossil fuels and it will explode into being.

Thats how America has always worked. But progressives believe they have to LEGISLATE and REGULATE everything.

They are wrong. Period.

The government cant fix everything….but they can make America conducive to serving their agenda by making it profitable to go green.

I said a while back and I remain convinced that we could cut our foreign oil use in 1/2 if we just thought differently.

Create battery cars with VERY EASY to replace battery packs. You pull into a gas station who then REPLACES your battery pack with a freshly recharged pack and your off……..cost……10 bucks for 5 minutes work.

The cities would fill up with Battery cars. Jobs would be created as gas stations would require more workers to replace these heavy battery packs…..etc.

Innovation and creation…….thats what has always made America strong………Squelching Legislation and regulation is nothing but a feel good………lets give all the money to the poor mentality that has kept this recession roaring for 2 years now.

Here’s a question. If we actually did everything the Republicans proposed and it crashed and burned would they ever admit they were wrong? Or would massive increases in poverty, unemployment, homelessness and hunger count in their eyes as failure so long as corporate profits were good? Yes, that’s a serious question. Another way to phrase it is which matters more, ideology or the facts on the ground?