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		<title>Now You Can Watch My Film, &#8220;We Will Make You Whole Again&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the past two years I wrote, produced and directed a film called &#8220;We Will Make You Whole Again&#8221; with my co-director, editor and cinematographer Trevor Hawkins of Mammoth Media. Some of you know this because a couple months back I shared the trailer for the film and told you a little bit about what [...]]]></description>
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<p>Over the past two years I wrote, produced and directed a film called <a href="http://wewillmakeyouwholeagain.com/">&#8220;We Will Make You Whole Again&#8221;</a> with my co-director, editor and cinematographer Trevor Hawkins of <a href="http://mammothmedia.tv/">Mammoth Media</a>. Some of you know this because a couple months back <a href="http://donklephant.com/2010/04/06/take-a-look-at-the-trailer-for-my-short-film-we-will-make-you-whole-again/">I shared the trailer</a> for the film and told you a little bit about what it was all about. </p>
<p>So now I wanted to make sure you knew that the film is <a href="http://wewillmakeyouwholeagain.com/store/">available for download for just $5</a>.</p>
<p>Still, why should you spend your hard earned money to watch it? After all, it&#8217;s just another short film.</p>
<p>Well, here are some reasons why you should check it out:
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<li>The themes of illegal immigration, sexual identity, domestic terrorism, the casualties of war and a post-racial society are definitely top of mind these days, and the film explores all of these through characters who are universally relatable yet also surprisingly unique.</li>
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<li>In the increasingly noisy world of radio shock jocks and talking heads, the film only has one line of dialogue and is driven almost entirely by an original score, which has been <a href="http://www.kansascity.com/2010/05/26/1970996/members-of-olympic-size-write.html">described by the Kansas City Star</a> as &#8220;melancholic, majestic, ethereal, ominous, somber and beautiful.&#8221;</li>
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<li>The title of the film comes from a phrase an Exxon representative said to <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/02/eveningnews/main4769329.shtml">fisherman in Alaska during their very first meeting back in 1989</a>. And our film premiered about a week before the current tragedy in the Gulf struck. Eerie timing to say the least.</li>
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<li>Maybe I&#8217;m naive, but I believe the work I produce has value. In particular, when I work this long and hard on something, I think giving it away for free is silly. And I hope you know that I wouldn&#8217;t ask you to spend $5 to purchase this film if I didn&#8217;t think it was worth it. So while I won&#8217;t guarantee that everybody who watches it will enjoy it, I&#8217;m confident that the vast majority will.</li>
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<p>But hey, don&#8217;t just take my word for it. The following are reviews from some folks who&#8217;ve seen it locally here in Kansas City&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/06/we_will_make_you_whole_again_with_this_short_film_download.php">The Pitch</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Strangers cross paths. They brush shoulders or hold a glance a beat too long. In that brief moment, lives can be changed. By now, this set up is familiar &#8212; it&#8217;s a theme routinely seen in movies because it speaks volumes about the human condition. Kansas City acts as the backdrop for another such film, the beautifully shot We Will Make You Whole Again. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/06/we_will_make_you_whole_again_with_this_short_film_download.php">Shane Adams</a>:<br />
<blockquote>The movie is really great. They’ve did a terrific job telling a compelling story about 6 strangers that feel disconnected from the world and each other because of things like age, race, sexuality, gender, language and culture, while revealing the common, everyday actions and emotions that unite them all.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/kckimchi/status/15048162759">kckimchi</a>:<br />
<blockquote> enjoyed the local short film We Will Make You Whole Again (@wwmywa) + the Q&#038;A w/ @jpgardner last night. Check it out if you haven&#8217;t yet</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/strangegirl76/status/15077774970">strangegirl76</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Saw @wwmywa last night &#038; thought it was amazing! You can download it for $5. DO IT!</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/inakizombie/status/15355115756">inaki</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Wow. Beautiful work. Really well done. :)</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/platterscratch/status/15017877458">platterscratch</a>:<br />
<blockquote>@wwmywa moving and brilliant. Bravo.</p></blockquote>
<p>As mentioned, the film is <a href="http://wewillmakeyouwholeagain.com/store/">available for download</a> for just $5. That gets you both a high quality .mov file that you can view on laptops and HDTVs and a medium quality .m4v file that you can use on most any portable media player, the most common being the iPod and iPhone. </p>
<p>So, if you&#8217;re a fan on independent film consider <a href="http://wewillmakeyouwholeagain.com/store/">buying a copy</a>. And if you&#8217;re a blogger, please consider writing about the film.</p>
<p>Thanks much and I hope you enjoy, &#8220;We Will Make You Whole Again.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Faisal Shahzad Admits To Time Square Bombing Attempt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 18:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And he says that he acted alone. We shall see&#8230; From Reuter: &#8220;He&#8217;s admitted to buying the truck, putting the devices together, putting them in the truck, leaving the truck there and leaving the scene,&#8221; the law enforcement source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity. &#8220;He&#8217;s claimed to have acted alone. He did admit [...]]]></description>
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<p>And he says that he acted alone.</p>
<p>We shall see&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6410CK20100504">From Reuter</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;He&#8217;s admitted to buying the truck, putting the devices together, putting them in the truck, leaving the truck there and leaving the scene,&#8221; the law enforcement source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s claimed to have acted alone. He did admit to all the charges, so to speak,&#8221; the source said, adding that investigators were still looking into his activities during a recent trip to Pakistan.</p>
<p>If links were found between the failed Times Square bombing and Pakistan&#8217;s Taliban, which claimed responsibility for it, Pakistan could come under renewed U.S. pressure to open risky new fronts against Islamic militants.</p></blockquote>
<p>Meanwhile, <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/04/miranda-faisal/">some conservatives are balking</a> at reading an American citizen his Miranda rights?<br />
<blockquote>– “I think obviously that [mirandizing Shahzad] would be a serious mistake until we’ve — at least until we find out as much information as we have, and there are ways — legal ways — of delaying that.” — Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)</p>
<p>– “I hope that [Attorney General Eric] Holder did discuss this with the intelligence community. If they believe they got enough from him, how much more should they get? Did they Mirandize him? I know he’s an American citizen but still.” — Rep. Peter King (R-NY)</p></blockquote>
<p>John McCain? Mr. Habeas Corpus himself? Seriously?</p>
<p>Even Joe Lieberman is getting in on the &#8220;no miranda&#8221; act&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>I think it’s time for us to look at whether we want to amend that law to apply it to American citizens who choose to become affiliated with foreign terrorist organizations, whether they should not also be deprived automatically of their citizenship, and therefore be deprived of rights that come with that citizenship when they are apprehended and charged with a terrorist act.</p></blockquote>
<p>So how exactly would we be able to determine that an American citizen&#8217;s rights be revoked before we know whether or not they did what they&#8217;re accused of?</p>
<p>Oh those pesky rights!</p>
<p>Oddly enough, Glenn Beck and I see eye to eye on this one&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>Beck added, “He’s a citizen of the United States, so I say we uphold the laws and the Constitution on citizens.” When Fox and Friends host Brian Kilmeade interjected, “But he’s a threat to the country. That’s different,” Beck responded, “So are a lot of citizens of the country. … We don’t shred the Constitution when it’s popular.”</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;So are a lot of citizens of this country.&#8221;</p>
<p>I never thought I&#8217;d say this, but thank you Glenn Beck!</p>
<p>More as it develops&#8230;</p>
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		<title>More On Faisal Shahzad, Times Square Bombing Suspect</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 15:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By now you know that he was nabbed last night at JFK International Airport, but do you know how it happened? From Politico: The number from a disposable cellphone led FBI agents to the suspect arrested Monday night for allegedly driving a car bomb into Times Square on Saturday evening, according to a senior official. [...]]]></description>
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<p>By now you know that he was nabbed last night at JFK International Airport, but do you know how it happened?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36738.html">From Politico</a>:<br />
<blockquote>The number from a disposable cellphone led FBI agents to the suspect arrested Monday night for allegedly driving a car bomb into Times Square on Saturday evening, according to a senior official.</p>
<p>“They were able to basically get one phone number and by running it through a number of databases, figure out who they thought the guy was,” the official said.</p>
<p>A huge law-enforcement force tracked the suspect through the afternoon and evening. He was arrested at 11:30 p.m. at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City.</p>
<p>The vehicle identification number had been removed from the bomb-laden 1993 Nissan Pathfinder left in Times Square. But investigators were able to lift it from a second location on the vehicle, and used that to track down a Connecticut man who said he had sold the Pathfinder for cash about three weeks ago.</p>
<p>The man had offered the vehicle on Craigslist, and FBI agents were able to recover the number from a disposable cellphone that had been used by the buyer.</p>
<p>The suspect didn&#8217;t still have the phone. But using a lot of technology and access to database, agents located the suspect.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s my question&#8230;that last part&#8230;he didn&#8217;t have the cell phone, but they were able to use &#8220;a lot of technology and access to database&#8221;&#8230;what does that mean? Was he part of a database? Did they already know who he was? Was he on some list?</p>
<p>Also, here&#8217;s one nugget I think many of us haven&#8217;t seen yet&#8230;he almost got away!<br />
<blockquote>After media reports late Monday that authorities were looking for a Pakistani-American man, Shahzad fled to Kennedy airport, boarding a flight for Dubai before law enforcement called the plane back to the terminal and the arrest was made.</p></blockquote>
<p>Regardless, glad to see that the government caught the guy that they think did it&#8230;but we should all be cautious given our record in the past.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/05/04/national/main6459360.shtml">Here&#8217;s more on Shahzad</a>, how he became a citizen and what that means:<br />
<blockquote>Despite becoming a naturalized U.S. citizen on April 17, 2009, Shahzad spent much of the past year outside of the country, mostly in Pakistan where his wife, Huma Mian, is currently living. Details of his activities abroad remain unclear, but a picture of his life in American began to emerge Tuesday.</p>
<p>Shahzad, along with his wife and children, a boy and a girl, lived for about three years in a two-story Colonial-style three-bedroom home in Shelton, Conn., former neighbors said.</p>
<p>Neighbors offered diverging descriptions of Shahzad but agreed that he kept to himself. One, Brenda Thurman, said Shahzad had told her husband he worked on Wall Street, while another neighbor, Audrey Sokol, said she thought he worked in nearby Norwalk.</p>
<p>&#8220;He was a little bit strange,&#8221; she said. &#8220;He didn&#8217;t like to come out during the day.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sokol, a teacher who lives next door to Shahzad&#8217;s old house, said that he would wave and say hello and that he seemed normal to her.</p>
<p>Shahzad was currently living with a roommate in a mixed-race, working-class neighborhood of multi-family homes in Bridgeport, Conn. Authorities removed filled plastic bags from that house overnight and a bomb squad came and went without entering as local police and FBI agents gathered in the cordoned-off street.</p>
<p>He became a citizen in Hartford, Conn., and passed all the criminal and national security background checks required for citizenship, officials said.</p>
<p>The officials familiar with the inquiry say investigators plan to go through his citizenship application line by line to see if he lied about anything.</p></blockquote>
<p>If Shahzad did try to blow up that SUV in Times Square, he&#8217;ll represent what many Americans fear: a foreign born naturalized citizen turned against us within our own shores. Basically, somebody who would be nearly impossible to stop from carrying out something truly horrific since he&#8217;s &#8220;one of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still, I would argue that this seems no different than a lone nut getting angry and <a href="http://donklephant.com/2010/02/18/domestic-terrorist-hits-irs-building-police-refuse-to-call-it-such/">flying his plane into a building</a>&#8230;except this attempt wasn&#8217;t successful. The media spent maybe a day or two on that story. How long will they spend digging into Shahzad&#8217;s past, motives, etc.?</p>
<p>More as it develops&#8230;</p>
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		<title>BREAKING: Times Square Terrorist Bomb Plot Said To Have International Ties</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 21:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like their may be a Pakistani connection after all, but it still doesn&#8217;t appear that those who initially claimed responsibility are tied to this. From ABC News: The Washington Post, quoting Obama Administration sources, said the attempted bombing &#8220;increasingly appears to have been coordinated by several people in a plot with international links.&#8221; Other [...]]]></description>
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<p>Looks like their may be a Pakistani connection after all, but it still doesn&#8217;t appear that those who initially claimed responsibility are tied to this.</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/times-square-car-bomber-police-release-video-suspect/story?id=10534834">From ABC News</a>:<br />
<blockquote>The Washington Post, quoting Obama Administration sources, said the attempted bombing &#8220;increasingly appears to have been coordinated by several people in a plot with international links.&#8221;</p>
<p>Other law enforcement officials said the investigation was closing in on the driver of the vehicle and an unknown number of others connected to him.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is moving very fast because they left behind a treasure trove of evidence in the unexploded car,&#8221; one US official told ABC News.</p></blockquote>
<p>And here&#8217;s more on the former owner of the vehicle and who he sold his SUV to&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>Officials told ABC News Senior Justice correspondent Pierre Thomas that the Connecticut owner of the vehicle told them he had sold the Nissan SUV last month in an unrecorded sale to an &#8220;Arabic or Latino looking man&#8221; in his 20&#8242;s or 30&#8242;s, for a few hundred dollars in cash.</p>
<p>The license plate on the car was apparently stolen from an auto repair shop outside Bridgeport, Connecticut, according to law enforcement officials.</p>
<p>The authorities told ABC News that the previous owner provided a description of the man who bought the car, and told investigators the vehicle was sold for several hundred dollars in cash, with no written records identifying the purchaser. </p></blockquote>
<p>By the way, the administration has officially deemed this a terrorist act. So that&#8217;s why the title was written that way.</p>
<p>More as it develops&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Video of Times Square Bomb Suspect</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 16:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the looks of the video, this guy could have been caught at the wrong place at the wrong time. Still, investigators can&#8217;t ignore any leads right now. More as it develops&#8230;]]></description>
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<p>From the looks of the video, this guy could have been caught at the wrong place at the wrong time.</p>
<p>Still, investigators can&#8217;t ignore any leads right now. </p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Meet The Press today, John Brennan (Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism) said the following when asked about Cheney&#8217;s comments: &#8220;I&#8217;m very disappointed in the vice president&#8217;s comments,&#8221; Mr. Brennan said, describing himself as neither a Democrat nor a Republican. &#8220;Either the vice president is willfully mischaracterizing this president&#8217;s position both [...]]]></description>
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<p>On Meet The Press today, John Brennan (Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism) <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/jan/03/brennan-cheney-wrong-criticism/">said the following</a> when asked about Cheney&#8217;s comments:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;I&#8217;m very disappointed in the vice president&#8217;s comments,&#8221; Mr. Brennan said, describing himself as neither a Democrat nor a Republican. &#8220;Either the vice president is willfully mischaracterizing this president&#8217;s position both in terms of the language he uses and the actions he&#8217;s taken, or he&#8217;s ignorant of the facts.</p>
<p>&#8220;And in either case it doesn&#8217;t speak well of what the vice president is doing. The clear evidence is that this president has been very, very strong. In his inaugural address he said we&#8217;re at war with this international network of terrorists. We continue to say that we&#8217;re at war with al Qaeda.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Brennan added that &#8220;partisan politics should be put aside when something as important to national security as the threat of terrorism . . . continues to haunt us. And we have to make sure that we stay focused on al Qaeda. And so that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m going to do in this job. I don&#8217;t care what Republicans or Democrats say out there. We need to continue to prosecute this war because al Qaeda the organization needs to be destroyed.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Cheney doesn&#8217;t care what the facts are, he doesn&#8217;t care about the consequences of his words&#8230;he simply wants to harm Obama (and Dems) in the eyes of all conservatives and possibly even right leaning independent hawks. It&#8217;s shameful stuff, but there it is nonetheless.</p>
<p>My question: what will make Cheney stop?</p>
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<p>In <a href="http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/archive/2010/01/02/white-house-advisor-briefed-in-october-on-underwear-bomb-technique.aspx">a story</a> about a White House adviser being briefed about the underwear bomb technique in October comes this tidbit at the very end&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>White House officials say President Obama has been keenly focused on the Qaeda threat from Yemen for months. As the NEWSWEEK story reports, the president has authorized a covert war in the country: when Yemeni jets bombed Qaeda targets on Dec. 17 and 24 (including a strike that tried, but failed, to kill al-Awlaki), the United States supplied intelligence, missiles, and military support. American spies and special forces are on the ground, assisting the Yemenis.</p></blockquote>
<p>So we were actually helping hit al Qaeda targets in Yemen even before we were attacked? </p>
<p>A logical first question&#8230;could the underwear bomb be considered blow back? I think it&#8217;s safe to say that the answer is &#8220;no&#8221; based on some additional intel about Anwar al-Awlaki. Because, as many of you already know, he has become a key figure in recent months and this has apparently been in the works before we tried to get him&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>Al-Awlaki, who had had contacts with two of the 9/11 hijackers, is the same imam who had been exchanging e-mails with the U.S. Army psychiatrist who later killed 13 people at Fort Hood, Texas. He is a now central figure in the Detroit investigation: prior to the Christmas incident, the National Security Agency had intercepted communications between a phone used by al-Awlaki and Abdulmutallab, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official tells NEWSWEEK. The official says that al-Awlaki may also have been involved in other intercepted communications indicating that Al Qaeda was planning to use an unidentified “Nigerian” in an attack over the holiday season. As NEWSWEEK reported on Friday, U.S. intelligence officials at a White House Situation Room briefing on Dec. 22 presented President Obama with a document on pre-holiday terror threats called “Key Homeland Threats.” But a senior administration official said there was no mention of Yemen in the written briefing document. The official would not say whether Yemen was discussed at the briefing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Still, I think it&#8217;s clear at this point that the CIA/FBI were asleep at the wheel when it comes to the watch list situation. Because the administration was obviously addressing the threats posed in Yemen, but somehow <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/229047">Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab</a> was still able to make it onto that plane. Thankfully crisis was averted and we can learn from this mistake instead of mourning it.</p>
<p>More as it develops&#8230;</p>
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He reminds America why we&#8217;re fighting, how we almost won in Afghanistan, how we got off course because of Iraq (without laying blame), how we plan to fix it and that this isn&#8217;t an open ended commitment. He even goes so far as to talk about when he&#8217;ll start bringing people home: July 2011. </p>
<p>All in all, pretty cut and dry.</p>
<p>Sure, there are those who will disagree with this plan, but they think we should just get out altogether. Funny that many of these folks are those who talked about how we should have focused more on Afghanistan back in the day.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good evening. To the United States Corps of Cadets, to the men and women of our armed services, and to my fellow Americans: I want to speak to you tonight about our effort in Afghanistan – the nature of our commitment there, the scope of our interests, and the strategy that my Administration will pursue [...]]]></description>
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<p>Good evening. To the United States Corps of Cadets, to the men and women of our armed services, and to my fellow Americans: I want to speak to you tonight about our effort in Afghanistan – the nature of our commitment there, the scope of our interests, and the strategy that my Administration will pursue to bring this war to a successful conclusion. It is an honor for me to do so here – at West Point – where so many men and women have prepared to stand up for our security, and to represent what is finest about our country.</p>
<p>To address these issues, it is important to recall why America and our allies were compelled to fight a war in Afghanistan in the first place. We did not ask for this fight. On September 11, 2001, nineteen men hijacked four airplanes and used them to murder nearly 3,000 people.</p>
<p>They struck at our military and economic nerve centers. They took the lives of innocent men, women, and children without regard to their faith or race or station. Were it not for the heroic actions of the passengers on board one of those flights, they could have also struck at one of the great symbols of our democracy in Washington, and killed many more.</p>
<p>As we know, these men belonged to al Qaeda – a group of extremists who have distorted and defiled Islam, one of the world’s great religions, to justify the slaughter of innocents. Al Qaeda’s base of operations was in Afghanistan, where they were harbored by the Taliban – a ruthless, repressive and radical movement that seized control of that country after it was ravaged by years of Soviet occupation and civil war, and after the attention of America and our friends had turned elsewhere.</p>
<p>Just days after 9/11, Congress authorized the use of force against al Qaeda and those who harbored them – an authorization that continues to this day. The vote in the Senate was 98 to 0. The vote in the House was 420 to 1. For the first time in its history, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization invoked Article 5 – the commitment that says an attack on one member nation is an attack on all. And the United Nations Security Council endorsed the use of all necessary steps to respond to the 9/11 attacks. America, our allies and the world were acting as one to destroy al Qaeda’s terrorist network, and to protect our common security.</p>
<p>Under the banner of this domestic unity and international legitimacy – and only after the Taliban refused to turn over Osama bin Laden – we sent our troops into Afghanistan. Within a matter of months, al Qaeda was scattered and many of its operatives were killed. The Taliban was driven from power and pushed back on its heels. A place that had known decades of fear now had reason to hope. At a conference convened by the UN, a provisional government was established under President Hamid Karzai. And an International Security Assistance Force was established to help bring a lasting peace to a war-torn country.</p>
<p>Then, in early 2003, the decision was made to wage a second war in Iraq. The wrenching debate over the Iraq War is well-known and need not be repeated here. It is enough to say that for the next six years, the Iraq War drew the dominant share of our troops, our resources, our diplomacy, and our national attention – and that the decision to go into Iraq caused substantial rifts between America and much of the world.<br />
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Today, after extraordinary costs, we are bringing the Iraq war to a responsible end. We will remove our combat brigades from Iraq by the end of next summer, and all of our troops by the end of 2011. That we are doing so is a testament to the character of our men and women in uniform. Thanks to their courage, grit and perseverance , we have given Iraqis a chance to shape their future, and we are successfully leaving Iraq to its people. </p>
<p>But while we have achieved hard-earned milestones in Iraq, the situation in Afghanistan has deteriorated. After escaping across the border into Pakistan in 2001 and 2002, al Qaeda’s leadership established a safe-haven there. Although a legitimate government was elected by the Afghan people, it has been hampered by corruption, the drug trade, an under-developed economy, and insufficient Security Forces.</p>
<p>Over the last several years, the Taliban has maintained common cause with al Qaeda, as they both seek an overthrow of the Afghan government. Gradually, the Taliban has begun to take control over swaths of Afghanistan, while engaging in increasingly brazen and devastating acts of terrorism against the Pakistani people.</p>
<p>Throughout this period, our troop levels in Afghanistan remained a fraction of what they were in Iraq. When I took office, we had just over 32,000 Americans serving in Afghanistan, compared to 160,000 in Iraq at the peak of the war. Commanders in Afghanistan repeatedly asked for support to deal with the reemergence of the Taliban, but these reinforcements did not arrive.</p>
<p>That’s why, shortly after taking office, I approved a long-standing request for more troops. After consultations with our allies, I then announced a strategy recognizing the fundamental connection between our war effort in Afghanistan, and the extremist safe-havens in Pakistan. I set a goal that was narrowly defined as disrupting, dismantling, and defeating al Qaeda and its extremist allies, and pledged to better coordinate our military and civilian effort. </p>
<p>Since then, we have made progress on some important objectives. High-ranking al Qaeda and Taliban leaders have been killed, and we have stepped up the pressure on al Qaeda world-wide. In Pakistan, that nation’s Army has gone on its largest offensive in years. In Afghanistan, we and our allies prevented the Taliban from stopping a presidential election, and – although it was marred by fraud – that election produced a government that is consistent with Afghanistan’s laws and Constitution.</p>
<p>Yet huge challenges remain. Afghanistan is not lost, but for several years it has moved backwards. There is no imminent threat of the government being overthrown, but the Taliban has gained momentum. Al Qaeda has not reemerged in Afghanistan in the same numbers as before 9/11, but they retain their safe-havens along the border.</p>
<p>And our forces lack the full support they need to effectively train and partner with Afghan Security Forces and better secure the population. Our new Commander in Afghanistan – General McChrystal – has reported that the security situation is more serious than he anticipated. In short: the status quo is not sustainable.<br />
As cadets, you volunteered for service during this time of danger. Some of you have fought in Afghanistan. Many will deploy there.</p>
<p>As your Commander-in-Chief, I owe you a mission that is clearly defined, and worthy of your service. That is why, after the Afghan voting was completed, I insisted on a thorough review of our strategy. Let me be clear: there has never been an option before me that called for troop deployments before 2010, so there has been no delay or denial of resources necessary for the conduct of the war.</p>
<p>Instead, the review has allowed me ask the hard questions, and to explore all of the different options along with my national security team, our military and civilian leadership in Afghanistan, and with our key partners. Given the stakes involved, I owed the American people – and our troops – no less.</p>
<p>This review is now complete. And as Commander-in-Chief, I have determined that it is in our vital national interest to send an additional 30,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan.  After 18 months, our troops will begin to come home. These are the resources that we need to seize the initiative, while building the Afghan capacity that can allow for a responsible transition of our forces out of Afghanistan. </p>
<p>I do not make this decision lightly. I opposed the war in Iraq precisely because I believe that we must exercise restraint in the use of military force, and always consider the long-term consequences of our actions. We have been at war for eight years, at enormous cost in lives and resources.</p>
<p>Years of debate over Iraq and terrorism have left our unity on national security issues in tatters, and created a highly polarized and partisan backdrop for this effort. And having just experienced the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the American people are understandably focused on rebuilding our economy and putting people to work here at home.</p>
<p>Most of all, I know that this decision asks even more of you – a military that, along with your families, has already borne the heaviest of all burdens.  As President, I have signed a letter of condolence to the family of each American who gives their life in these wars. I have read the letters from the parents and spouses of those who deployed.  I have visited our courageous wounded warriors at Walter Reed. </p>
<p>I have traveled to Dover to meet the flag-draped caskets of 18 Americans returning home to their final resting place. I see firsthand the terrible wages of war. If I did not think that the security of the United States and the safety of the American people were at stake in Afghanistan, I would gladly order every single one of our troops home tomorrow.</p>
<p>So no – I do not make this decision lightly. I make this decision because I am convinced that our security is at stake in Afghanistan and Pakistan. This is the epicenter of the violent extremism practiced by al Qaeda. It is from here that we were attacked on 9/11, and it is from here that new attacks are being plotted as I speak. This is no idle danger; no hypothetical threat. In the last few months alone, we have apprehended extremists within our borders who were sent here from the border region of Afghanistan and Pakistan to commit new acts of terror.</p>
<p>This danger will only grow if the region slides backwards, and al Qaeda can operate with impunity. We must keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and to do that, we must increase the stability and capacity of our partners in the region.</p>
<p>Of course, this burden is not ours alone to bear. This is not just America’s war. Since 9/11, al Qaeda’s safe-havens have been the source of attacks against London and Amman and Bali. The people and governments of both Afghanistan and Pakistan are endangered. And the stakes are even higher within a nuclear-armed Pakistan, because we know that al Qaeda and other extremists seek nuclear weapons, and we have every reason to believe that they would use them.</p>
<p>These facts compel us to act along with our friends and allies. Our overarching goal remains the same: to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and to prevent its capacity to threaten America and our allies in the future.</p>
<p>To meet that goal, we will pursue the following objectives within Afghanistan. We must deny al Qaeda a safe-haven. We must reverse the Taliban’s momentum and deny it the ability to overthrow the government. And we must strengthen the capacity of Afghanistan’s Security Forces and government, so that they can take lead responsibility for Afghanistan’s future. </p>
<p>We will meet these objectives in three ways.  First, we will pursue a military strategy that will break the Taliban’s momentum and increase Afghanistan’s capacity over the next 18 months.</p>
<p>The 30,000 additional troops that I am announcing tonight will deploy in the first part of 2010 – the fastest pace possible – so that they can target the insurgency and secure key population centers. They will increase our ability to train competent Afghan Security Forces, and to partner with them so that more Afghans can get into the fight. And they will help create the conditions for the United States to transfer responsibility to the Afghans. </p>
<p>Because this is an international effort, I have asked that our commitment be joined by contributions from our allies. Some have already provided additional troops, and we are confident that there will be further contributions in the days and weeks ahead. Our friends have fought and bled and died alongside us in Afghanistan. Now, we must come together to end this war successfully. For what’s at stake is not simply a test of NATO’s credibility – what’s at stake is the security of our Allies, and the common security of the world.</p>
<p>Taken together, these additional American and international troops will allow us to accelerate handing over responsibility to Afghan forces, and allow us to begin the transfer of our forces out of Afghanistan in July of 2011. Just as we have done in Iraq, we will execute this transition responsibly, taking into account conditions on the ground.</p>
<p>We will continue to advise and assist Afghanistan’s Security Forces to ensure that they can succeed over the long haul. But it will be clear to the Afghan government – and, more importantly, to the Afghan people – that they will ultimately be responsible for their own country. </p>
<p>Second, we will work with our partners, the UN, and the Afghan people to pursue a more effective civilian strategy, so that the government can take advantage of improved security.</p>
<p>This effort must be based on performance. The days of providing a blank check are over. President Karzai’s inauguration speech sent the right message about moving in a new direction. And going forward, we will be clear about what we expect from those who receive our assistance. We will support Afghan Ministries, Governors, and local leaders that combat corruption and deliver for the people. We expect those who are ineffective or corrupt to be held accountable. And we will also focus our assistance in areas – such as agriculture – that can make an immediate impact in the lives of the Afghan people.</p>
<p>The people of Afghanistan have endured violence for decades. They have been confronted with occupation – by the Soviet Union, and then by foreign al Qaeda fighters who used Afghan land for their own purposes. So tonight, I want the Afghan people to understand – America seeks an end to this era of war and suffering. We have no interest in occupying your country.</p>
<p>We will support efforts by the Afghan government to open the door to those Taliban who abandon violence and respect the human rights of their fellow citizens. And we will seek a partnership with Afghanistan grounded in mutual respect – to isolate those who destroy; to strengthen those who build; to hasten the day when our troops will leave; and to forge a lasting friendship in which America is your partner, and never your patron.</p>
<p>Third, we will act with the full recognition that our success in Afghanistan is inextricably linked to our partnership with Pakistan.</p>
<p>We are in Afghanistan to prevent a cancer from once again spreading through that country. But this same cancer has also taken root in the border region of Pakistan. That is why we need a strategy that works on both sides of the border.</p>
<p>In the past, there have been those in Pakistan who have argued that the struggle against extremism is not their fight, and that Pakistan is better off doing little or seeking accommodation with those who use violence. But in recent years, as innocents have been killed from Karachi to Islamabad, it has become clear that it is the Pakistani people who are the most endangered by extremism. Public opinion has turned. The Pakistani Army has waged an offensive in Swat and South Waziristan. And there is no doubt that the United States and Pakistan share a common enemy.</p>
<p>In the past, we too often defined our relationship with Pakistan narrowly. Those days are over. Moving forward, we are committed to a partnership with Pakistan that is built on a foundation of mutual interests, mutual respect, and mutual trust. We will strengthen Pakistan’s capacity to target those groups that threaten our countries, and have made it clear that we cannot tolerate a safe-haven for terrorists whose location is known, and whose intentions are clear.</p>
<p>America is also providing substantial resources to support Pakistan’s democracy and development. We are the largest international supporter for those Pakistanis displaced by the fighting. And going forward, the Pakistani people must know: America will remain a strong supporter of Pakistan’s security and prosperity long after the guns have fallen silent, so that the great potential of its people can be unleashed.</p>
<p>These are the three core elements of our strategy: a military effort to create the conditions for a transition; a civilian surge that reinforces positive action; and an effective partnership with Pakistan.</p>
<p>I recognize that there are a range of concerns about our approach. So let me briefly address a few of the prominent arguments that I have heard, and which I take very seriously.</p>
<p>First, there are those who suggest that Afghanistan is another Vietnam. They argue that it cannot be stabilized, and we are better off cutting our losses and rapidly withdrawing. Yet this argument depends upon a false reading of history. Unlike Vietnam, we are joined by a broad coalition of 43 nations that recognizes the legitimacy of our action.</p>
<p>Unlike Vietnam, we are not facing a broad-based popular insurgency. And most importantly, unlike Vietnam, the American people were viciously attacked from Afghanistan, and remain a target for those same extremists who are plotting along its border. To abandon this area now – and to rely only on efforts against al Qaeda from a distance – would significantly hamper our ability to keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an unacceptable risk of additional attacks on our homeland and our allies. </p>
<p>Second, there are those who acknowledge that we cannot leave Afghanistan in its current state, but suggest that we go forward with the troops that we have. But this would simply maintain a status quo in which we muddle through, and permit a slow deterioration of conditions there. It would ultimately prove more costly and prolong our stay in Afghanistan, because we would never be able to generate the conditions needed to train Afghan Security Forces and give them the space to take over.</p>
<p>Finally, there are those who oppose identifying a timeframe for our transition to Afghan responsibility. Indeed, some call for a more dramatic and open-ended escalation of our war effort – one that would commit us to a nation building project of up to a decade.</p>
<p>I reject this course because it sets goals that are beyond what we can achieve at a reasonable cost, and what we need to achieve to secure our interests. Furthermore, the absence of a timeframe for transition would deny us any sense of urgency in working with the Afghan government. It must be clear that Afghans will have to take responsibility for their security, and that America has no interest in fighting an endless war in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>As President, I refuse to set goals that go beyond our responsibility, our means, our or interests.  And I must weigh all of the challenges that our nation faces. I do not have the luxury of committing to just one. Indeed, I am mindful of the words of President Eisenhower, who – in discussing our national security – said, &#8220;Each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs.”</p>
<p>Over the past several years, we have lost that balance, and failed to appreciate the connection between our national security and our economy. In the wake of an economic crisis, too many of our friends and neighbors are out of work and struggle to pay the bills, and too many Americans are worried about the future facing our children.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, competition within the global economy has grown more fierce. So we simply cannot afford to ignore the price of these wars.</p>
<p>All told, by the time I took office the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan approached a trillion dollars. Going forward, I am committed to addressing these costs openly and honestly. Our new approach in Afghanistan is likely to cost us roughly 30 billion dollars for the military this year, and I will work closely with Congress to address these costs as we work to bring down our deficit.</p>
<p>But as we end the war in Iraq and transition to Afghan responsibility, we must rebuild our strength here at home. Our prosperity provides a foundation for our power. It pays for our military. It underwrites our diplomacy. It taps the potential of our people, and allows investment in new industry. And it will allow us to compete in this century as successfully as we did in the last. That is why our troop commitment in Afghanistan cannot be open-ended – because the nation that I am most interested in building is our own.</p>
<p>Let me be clear: none of this will be easy. The struggle against violent extremism will not be finished quickly, and it extends well beyond Afghanistan and Pakistan. It will be an enduring test of our free society, and our leadership in the world. And unlike the great power conflicts and clear lines of division that defined the 20th century, our effort will involve disorderly regions and diffuse enemies.</p>
<p>So as a result, America will have to show our strength in the way that we end wars and prevent conflict. We will have to be nimble and precise in our use of military power. Where al Qaeda and its allies attempt to establish a foothold – whether in Somalia or Yemen or elsewhere – they must be confronted by growing pressure and strong partnerships.</p>
<p>And we cannot count on military might alone. We have to invest in our homeland security, because we cannot capture or kill every violent extremist abroad. We have to improve and better coordinate our intelligence, so that we stay one step ahead of shadowy networks.</p>
<p>We will have to take away the tools of mass destruction. That is why I have made it a central pillar of my foreign policy to secure loose nuclear materials from terrorists; to stop the spread of nuclear weapons; and to pursue the goal of a world without them. Because every nation must understand that true security will never come from an endless race for ever-more destructive weapons – true security will come for those who reject them.</p>
<p>We will have to use diplomacy, because no one nation can meet the challenges of an interconnected world acting alone. I have spent this year renewing our alliances and forging new partnerships. And we have forged a new beginning between America and the Muslim World – one that recognizes our mutual interest in breaking a cycle of conflict, and that promises a future in which those who kill innocents are isolated by those who stand up for peace and prosperity and human dignity.</p>
<p>Finally, we must draw on the strength of our values – for the challenges that we face may have changed, but the things that we believe in must not.  That is why we must promote our values by living them at home – which is why I have prohibited torture and will close the prison at Guantanamo Bay. And we must make it clear to every man, woman and child around the world who lives under the dark cloud of tyranny that America will speak out on behalf of their human rights, and tend to the light of freedom, and justice, and opportunity, and respect for the dignity of all peoples. That is who we are. That is the moral source of America’s authority.</p>
<p>Since the days of Franklin Roosevelt, and the service and sacrifice of our grandparents, our country has borne a special burden in global affairs. We have spilled American blood in many countries on multiple continents. We have spent our revenue to help others rebuild from rubble and develop their own economies. We have joined with others to develop an architecture of institutions – from the United Nations to NATO to the World Bank – that provide for the common security and prosperity of human beings.</p>
<p>We have not always been thanked for these efforts, and we have at times made mistakes. But more than any other nation, the United States of America has underwritten global security for over six decades – a time that, for all its problems, has seen walls come down, markets open, billions lifted from poverty, unparalleled scientific progress, and advancing frontiers of human liberty. </p>
<p>For unlike the great powers of old, we have not sought world domination. Our union was founded in resistance to oppression. We do not seek to occupy other nations. We will not claim another nation’s resources or target other peoples because their faith or ethnicity is different from ours. What we have fought for – and what we continue to fight for – is a better future for our children and grandchildren, and we believe that their lives will be better if other peoples’ children and grandchildren can live in freedom and access opportunity.  </p>
<p>As a country, we are not as young – and perhaps not as innocent – as we were when Roosevelt was President. Yet we are still heirs to a noble struggle for freedom. Now we must summon all of our might and moral suasion to meet the challenges of a new age. </p>
<p>In the end, our security and leadership does not come solely from the strength of our arms. It derives from our people – from the workers and businesses who will rebuild our economy; from the entrepreneurs and researchers who will pioneer new industries; from the teachers that will educate our children, and the service of those who work in our communities at home; from the diplomats and Peace Corps volunteers who spread hope abroad; and from the men and women in uniform who are part of an unbroken line of sacrifice that has made government of the people, by the people, and for the people a reality on this Earth.</p>
<p>This vast and diverse citizenry will not always agree on every issue – nor should we. But I also know that we, as a country, cannot sustain our leadership nor navigate the momentous challenges of our time if we allow ourselves to be split asunder by the same rancor and cynicism and partisanship that has in recent times poisoned our national discourse.</p>
<p>It is easy to forget that when this war began, we were united – bound together by the fresh memory of a horrific attack, and by the determination to defend our homeland and the values we hold dear. I refuse to accept the notion that we cannot summon that unity again. I believe with every fiber of my being that we – as Americans – can still come together behind a common purpose. For our values are not simply words written into parchment – they are a creed that calls us together, and that has carried us through the darkest of storms as one nation, one people.</p>
<p>America – we are passing through a time of great trial. And the message that we send in the midst of these storms must be clear: that our cause is just, our resolve unwavering. We will go forward with the confidence that right makes might, and with the commitment to forge an America that is safer, a world that is more secure, and a future that represents not the deepest of fears but the highest of hopes. Thank you, God Bless you, God Bless our troops, and may God Bless the United States of America.</p>
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		<title>Generals, Admirals Call Cheneys Scaremongers For Terrorism Claims</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
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<p>If you didn&#8217;t believe me before about Guantanamo and why it was a remarkably dumb idea, will you believe these guys?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27705.html">From Politico</a>:<br />
<blockquote>“It’s up to all of us to say these arguments advanced by Cheney and his acolytes are nonsense and that really what they’re doing is undermining our national security by delaying the date at which Guantanamo is closed,” retired Brig. Gen. James Cullen, a former chief judge of the Army’s Court of Criminal Appeals, told POLITICO Tuesday.</p>
<p>“Some of the fear issues that are being raised in this are really unfortunate. It gets people excited about things they shouldn’t be excited about and impedes doing what is critical to this country. Get that damn symbol off the table,” said retired Gen. David Maddox [pictured above], a former Army commander-in-chief for Europe. “We take a setback every time somebody, whether it’s the vice president or his daughter comes out and says the things that they say….We have to get out there again and just keep pounding.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Also, the following quote in particular is gratifying to hear, especially when people act as if terrorists are somehow the most dangerous criminals in the history of the world and their presence in a community would somehow make it ridiculously unsafe&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>“Can you imagine getting a terrorist from Guantanamo convicted and put in a federal penitentiary in your town?” Maddox asked. “Have you ever checked who the hell’s in there already? Have any of them gotten out? The person who we’re putting in is probably a heck of lot less dangerous than most of them who are already in there.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed. Now it&#8217;s time to convince the rest of the US.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get started&#8230;</p>
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		<title>McCain Puts The Lie To Torture&#8230;Again</title>
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<p><i>&#8221; I think the interrogations were in violation of the Geneva Convention against torture that we ratified under President Reagan. I think that these interrogations, once publicized, helped al Qaeda recruit. I got that from an al Qaeda operative in a prison camp in Iraq who told me that. I think that the ability of us to work with our allies was harmed. And so &#8212; and I believe that information according to the FBI and others could have been gained through other methods.&#8221;</i><br />
- John McCain on <a href="http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003195479">Face The Nation</a> today</p>
<p>Yes folks, torture became a recruitment tool. And it&#8217;s apparently yet another reason we got bogged down in Iraq. Again, from McCain&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;Senator Lindsey Graham and I were in Camp Bucca, where there’s the 20,000-prisoner camp. We met with a former high- ranking member of al Qaeda. I said, how did you succeed so well in Iraq after the initial invasions? He said two things. One, the chaos that existed after the initial invasion, there was no order of any kind. Two, he said Abu Ghraib pictures allowed me and helped me to recruit thousands of young men to our cause. Now that’s al Qaeda.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Does this surprise anybody?</p>
<p>The question now&#8230;will we learn?</p>
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<p>Everybody&#8217;s abuzz about <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/28/AR2009082803874.html">the new Wash Post story</a> today that starts off with the idea that Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) was turned into some type of &#8220;terrorist professor&#8221; because he was waterboarded.</p>
<p>And away we go&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>The debate over the effectiveness of subjecting detainees to psychological and physical pressure is in some ways irresolvable, because it is impossible to know whether less coercive methods would have achieved the same result. But for defenders of waterboarding, the evidence is clear: Mohammed cooperated, and to an extraordinary extent, only when his spirit was broken in the month after his capture March 1, 2003, as the inspector general&#8217;s report and other documents released this week indicate.</p>
<p>Over a few weeks, he was subjected to an escalating series of coercive methods, culminating in 7 1/2 days of sleep deprivation, while diapered and shackled, and 183 instances of waterboarding. After the month-long torment, he was never waterboarded again.</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you think changed KSM&#8217;s mind?&#8221; one former senior intelligence official said this week after being asked about the effect of waterboarding. &#8220;Of course it began with that.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, of course it began with that. Why? BECAUSE IT BEGAN WITH THAT.</p>
<p>Also, KSM didn&#8217;t start giving these terrorism lectures until a full 2 YEARS LATER. The waterboarding lasted one month. Think maybe building rapport and trust with him over the next couple years did more than making him feel like he was drowning?</p>
<p>Not only that, during this early period KSM gave us a bunch of false information&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>Mohammed, in statements to the International Committee of the Red Cross, said some of the information he provided was untrue.</p>
<p>&#8220;During the harshest period of my interrogation I gave a lot of false information in order to satisfy what I believed the interrogators wished to hear in order to make the ill-treatment stop. I later told interrogators that their methods were stupid and counterproductive. I&#8217;m sure that the false information I was forced to invent in order to make the ill-treatment stop wasted a lot of their time,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>When will people begin to understand that there is an inherent paradox in the idea of torture: you don&#8217;t know what you don&#8217;t know. So somebody can make up ANYTHING to get you stop torturing them and you&#8217;ll waste your time. </p>
<p>Of course the vast majority of interrogators will tell you this time and time and time again, but the opposition finds a few people who were able to beat some actionable intelligence out of somebody and that makes it alright for us to do</p>
<p>And that gets me to the real point of this post. Torture works? Again, no. Because it completely undermines the values that we&#8217;re fighting to defend. America is not a TV show. Fighting terrorism doesn&#8217;t work like that. And if you don&#8217;t understand that having policies that allow us to kidnap and torture anybody we want makes us look like the big bullies they accuse of being, makes it easier for more people to hate us and therefore makes us less safe, well, please think on this some more. </p>
<p>Seriously, really dig into the cause and effect of what we&#8217;re doing. Because <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_%28intelligence%29">&#8220;blowback&#8221;</a> is real, and I fear that if we don&#8217;t stop what we&#8217;re doing we&#8217;re in for yet another round of it.</p>
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		<title>Yes, Extraordinary Rendition To Continue Under Obama</title>
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<p>But they promise that detainees won&#8217;t be abused. More on why I think that&#8217;s nonsense later on in the post.</p>
<p>But first, more <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/us/politics/25rendition.html?_r=1&#038;ref=global-home">from NY Times:</a><br />
<blockquote>The announcement, by President Obama’s Interrogation and Transfer Policy Task Force, seemed intended in part to offset the impact of the release on Monday of a long-withheld report by the C.I.A. inspector general, written in 2004, that offered new details about the brutal tactics used by the C.I.A. in interrogating terrorism detainees.</p>
<p>Though the Obama administration previously signaled that it would continue the use of renditions, some civil liberties groups were disappointed because, as a presidential candidate, Mr. Obama had strongly suggested he might end the practice. In an article in Foreign Affairs in the summer of 2007, Mr. Obama wrote, “To build a better, freer world, we must first behave in ways that reflect the decency and aspirations of the American people.”</p>
<p>Mr. Obama continued, “This means ending the practices of shipping away prisoners in the dead of night to be tortured in far-off countries, of detaining thousands without charge or trial, of maintaining a network of secret prisons to jail people beyond the reach of the law.” In January, the president ordered secret prisons run by the C.I.A. to be shut down.</p></blockquote>
<p>And here are the changes proposed so people aren&#8217;t tortured&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>The administration officials, who discussed the changes on condition that they not be identified, said that unlike the Bush administration, they would operate more openly and give the State Department a larger role in assuring that transferred detainees would not be abused.</p>
<p>“The emphasis will be on ensuring that individuals will not face torture if they are sent overseas,” said one administration official, adding that no detainees would be sent to countries known to conduct abusive interrogations.</p></blockquote>
<p>While these are at least movements in the right direction, we&#8217;ve seen how people have been <a href="http://donklephant.com/2007/03/05/the-extraordinary-rendition-of-khaled-el-masri/">kidnapped from their homes</a>, <a href="http://donklephant.com/2008/03/16/outlawed-extraordinary-rendition-torture-and-disappearances-in-the-war-on-terror/">detained for years</a> and <a href="http://donklephant.com/2009/01/06/the-sad-case-of-muhammad-saad-iqbal/">then released</a> because they shouldn&#8217;t have been picked up in the first place.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing&#8230;stealing people from their lives still constitutes abuse in my book. Perhaps not the classic definition of torture, but think of the mental torment those folks went through. So if it happens again, well, shame on the Obama administration.</p>
<p>Truly disappointing&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
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<p>Not that it&#8217;s a surprise, but are we at the point now where we start talking seriously about prosecutions? Because it&#8217;s apparent that Cheney directed the C.I.A. to break the law by concealing information and if the guy can get away with <i>anything</i> as long as it was done for national security reasons, well, what kind of precedent does that set?</p>
<p>And I do believe this is different than warrantless wiretapping, waterboarding, etc. Because while many people were uncomfortable with those programs, at least our elected officials knew about them.</p>
<p>In any event, here&#8217;s the story <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/us/politics/12intel.html?_r=1&#038;hp">from NY Times</a>:<br />
<blockquote>The Central Intelligence Agency withheld information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress for eight years on direct orders from former Vice President Dick Cheney, the agencyâ€™s director, Leon E. Panetta, has told the Senate and House intelligence committees, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.</p>
<p>The report that Mr. Cheney was behind the decision to conceal the still-unidentified program from Congress deepened the mystery surrounding it, suggesting that the Bush administration had put a high priority on the program and its secrecy.</p>
<p>Mr. Panetta, who ended the program when he first learned of its existence from subordinates on June 23, briefed the two intelligence committees about it in separate closed sessions the next day.</p></blockquote>
<p>And here&#8217;s the kicker&#8230;apparently the program wasn&#8217;t that important&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>Intelligence and Congressional officials have said the unidentified program did not involve the C.I.A. interrogation program and did not involve domestic intelligence activities. They have said the program was started by the counterterrorism center at the C.I.A. shortly after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, but never became fully operational, involving planning and some training that took place off and on from 2001 until this year.</p>
<p>â€œBecause this program never went fully operational and hadnâ€™t been briefed as Panetta thought it should have been, his decision to kill it was neither difficult nor controversial,â€ one intelligence official, who would speak about the classified program only on condition of anonymity. â€œThatâ€™s worth remembering amid all the drama.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>Why did Cheney want to keep it so hush hush? Maybe to simply see if he could? A test case to see if the C.I.A. would keep its mouth shut?</p>
<p>Hopefully we&#8217;ll find out soon enough.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bombshell story broke today about the Obama administration drafting an executive order that could be used to hold terrorism suspects indefinitely. First, here&#8217;s the story&#8230; Obama administration officials, fearing a battle with Congress that could stall plans to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, are crafting language for an executive order that would [...]]]></description>
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<p>A bombshell story broke today about the Obama administration drafting an executive order that could be used to hold terrorism suspects indefinitely.</p>
<p>First, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/26/AR2009062603361.html?hpid=topnews">here&#8217;s the story&#8230;</a><br />
<blockquote>Obama administration officials, fearing a battle with Congress that could stall plans to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, are crafting language for an executive order that would reassert presidential authority to incarcerate terrorism suspects indefinitely, according to three senior government officials with knowledge of White House deliberations.</p>
<p>Such an order would embrace claims by former president George W. Bush that certain people can be detained without trial for long periods under the laws of war. Obama advisers are concerned that an order, which would bypass Congress, could place the president on weaker footing before the courts and anger key supporters, the officials said.</p>
<p>After months of internal debate over how to close the military facility in Cuba, White House officials are increasingly worried that reaching quick agreement with Congress on a new detention system may be impossible. Several officials said there is concern in the White House that the administration may not be able to close the prison by the president&#8217;s January deadline.</p></blockquote>
<p>But the administration <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ivlhJ7LIrQBkZolFoEQp7bzFjPkQ">denied the report</a> and the Washington Post has since revised it&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>An administration official told AFP that no such draft order existed, though internal deliberations were taking place on how to deal with those inmates who could not be released or tried in civilian courts.</p>
<p>The source said that a task force established by the president was not due to present its recommendations until July, and that the administration would then work with Congress to find a solution to the conundrum.</p>
<p>The official was reacting to a report by The Washington Post that said the Obama administration &#8220;has drafted an executive order that would reassert presidential authority to incarcerate terrorism suspects indefinitely.&#8221;</p>
<p>The newspaper later revised its report to say the administration &#8220;is drafting&#8221; the executive order, among other changes.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, seriously, who&#8217;s lying?</p>
<p>Listen, I have no doubt that people have at least discussed the idea of keeping indefinite detention on the table because that&#8217;s just debate. But that&#8217;s a lot different than drafting an executive order. Did Wash Post jump the gun on this one or is the Obama administration actually considering indefinite detention as an option?</p>
<p>Also, after the last 8 years, how is indefinite detention a sticky subject in Congress? I thought it had been long since established that Americans didn&#8217;t approve of this practice. Did I miss something in the past 6 months?</p>
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		<title>ANP Report (VIDEO): Sen. Lindsey Graham Debates Himself on Detainee Torture</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 13:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2008 Senator Lindsey Graham seems to disagree with 2009 Lindsey Graham. This is Mike Fritz and David Murdock from ANP. Senator Lindsey Graham was a passionate critic of the Bush Justice attorneys during this past summer&#8217;s Armed Services Committee hearings on interrogation. Lately, however, Graham seems to have had second thoughts on the matter. At [...]]]></description>
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<p>2008 Senator Lindsey Graham seems to disagree with 2009 Lindsey Graham.</p>
<p>This is Mike Fritz and David Murdock from ANP.</p>
<p>Senator Lindsey Graham was a passionate critic of the Bush Justice attorneys during this past summer&#8217;s Armed Services Committee hearings on interrogation.</p>
<p>Lately, however, Graham seems to have had second thoughts on the matter. At a recent Judiciary subcommittee hearing investigating the torture memos, Graham mounted a feisty defense of Jay Bybee, John Yoo and the lawyers who provided legal cover for detainee abuse.</p>
<p>This performance sent producer Mike Fritz back to the ANP archives to confirm that this was indeed the same Lindsey Graham we remembered from the summer, and sure enough, it was. As this video reveals, same guy &#8211; different message.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>donar</dc:creator>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Afghanistan&#8217;s President Hamad Karzai and Pakistan&#8217;s President Asif Ali Zardari meet with David Gregory to talk about the problems in their countries. Question: can the problems in Pakistan and Afghanistan be solved or will this be Obama&#8217;s Iraq? Discuss&#8230;]]></description>
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Question: can the problems in Pakistan and Afghanistan be solved or will this be Obama&#8217;s Iraq?</p>
<p>Discuss&#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 01:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple nights ago, the original Post-Modern Conservative James Poulos, Scott Payne and I spent a few dozen minutes discussing torture &#8211; how our thoughts on the issue have evolved, why prosecutions and/or truth commissions aren&#8217;t such an easy call, and most importantly why the aspect of the torture program that is most troubling is [...]]]></description>
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<p>A couple nights ago, the original Post-Modern Conservative James Poulos, Scott Payne and I spent a few dozen minutes discussing torture &#8211; how our thoughts on the issue have evolved, why prosecutions and/or truth commissions aren&#8217;t such an easy call, and most importantly why the aspect of the torture program that is most troubling is the secrecy it entails.  If you have some time, have a listen.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/Torture-Poulos-Thompson.mp3"><strong>Click here to Listen</strong></a></p>
<p>Some of the posts/pieces we mentioned are linked here:</p>
<p>James&#8217; unique take on torture at pomocon <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/postmodernconservative/?p=299" target="_self">here</a> and <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/postmodernconservative/?p=398" target="_self">here</a>, which acts as a jumping off point for the best parts of the conversation.</p>
<p>James and  Daniel Larison&#8217;s conversation about empire linked <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/postmodernconservative/?p=404" target="_self">here</a>.</p>
<p>Most of my writing on the subject can be found <a href="http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/author/mark-thompson/" target="_blank">here</a> at the League of Ordinary Gentlemen.  The most relevant of those posts is <a href="http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/04/taking-the-wrong-approach/">this one</a>.</p>
<p>The Bacevich Globe piece is<a href="http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/04/25/obamas_sins_of_omission/" target="_blank"> here</a>.</p>
<p>And Tyler Cowen&#8217;s post opposing prosecution that James mentions can be found <a href="http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/04/torture-prosecution.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a section in the middle of the audio where we discuss the relevance of American interventionism and I turn into a blithering idiot for a few minutes.  But Scott and James&#8217; discussion on that issue is well worth the dead air I cause.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ordinary-gentlemen.com/2009/04/a-users-guide-to-self-immolation-chapter-8-torture/">Cross-posted.</a></p>
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<p>Just for future reference, what you&#8217;re seeing above is considered a &#8220;pour.&#8221; You&#8217;ll need that information to weave your way through the mine field presented here by Fox News.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/28/despite-reports-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-waterboarded-times/">Let the apologizing begin&#8230;</a><br />
<blockquote>A U.S. official with knowledge of the interrogation program told FOX News that the much-cited figure represents the number of times water was poured onto Mohammed&#8217;s face &#8212; not the number of times the CIA applied the simulated-drowning technique on the terror suspect.  According to a 2007 Red Cross report, he was subjected a total of &#8220;five sessions of ill-treatment.&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;The water was poured 183 times &#8212; there were 183 pours,&#8221; the official explained, adding that &#8220;each pour was a matter of seconds.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Times and dozens of other outlets wrote that the CIA also waterboarded senior Al Qaeda member Abu Zubaydah 83 times, but Zubayda himself, a close associate of Usama bin Laden, told the Red Cross he was waterboarded no more than 10 times.</p>
<p>The confusion stems from language in the Justice Department legal memos that President Obama released on April 16. They contain the numbers, but they fail to explain exactly what they represent.</p></blockquote>
<p>So Fox doesn&#8217;t believe that a pour is considered being waterboarded.</p>
<p>Does it really matter?</p>
<p>We tried to induce the feeling of drowning in somebody 183 times. Whether or not it was 1 attempt during 183 separate sessions or 10 attempts during 18 sessions is irrelevant. </p>
<p>Torture is torture is torture.</p>
<p>Still, these last two sentences of the story tell you pretty much all you need to know about where Fox is coming at this from&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>And the precise number of waterboarding sessions is still not known. What is known is that Mohammed was not waterboarded 183 times.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ugh.</p>
<p>Moving on&#8230;</p>
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