Getting back to the topic, PBS News Online- that well-known group of Republican stooges- reported that:

“The Clinton administration apparently learned of the secret program in late 1998 or early 1999, and by March 2000, President Clinton informed Congress he could no longer certify that “North Korea is not seeking to develop or acquire the capability to enrich uranium.”

and the New York Times, in the same issue that carried the Carter piece, stated:

“…But starting around 1997, the North Koreans took steps to start a second, secret nuclear program, one based on enriching uranium…”

It’s pretty clear from all the sources that North Korea was in violation of the pact even befroe the ink was dry?

Why shouldn’t the wealthy be doing well? Bush is one of them; it’s in his own interest to see to it they get their slice along with him. The rest of society? Here’s a clue for you: my husband and I can’t get health insurance or afford healthcare in the USA, and we both have jobs. Fortunately for us, our jobs are in another country where we can get insurance and healthcare because the government here sets strict price cielings. The rest of our families aren’t doing so great in the “fabulous” Bush economy.

And FYI, I’m not suffering from “Bush hatred;” I enjoy it. When he was elected I was largely indifferent to him, but since 2002 until I’ve watched him and the others commit folly after folly piled on top of even more folly. Hatred is the only reasonable response.

An example of just how stupid total Bush hatred makes some people, just look at the economy. Saddled with the internet bubble burst, then 9/11, then 2 wars, then Katrina, then gas prices duing his 6 years in office, how do you explain the robust health of the economy? If you blindly hate Bush and Republicans in general, you can’t give them or their policies any credit at all. So how do you explain it?

The answer for the simple minded - You point out this is a result of the Clinton legacy, or that the economy is doing well even though Bush and his Republican goons are doing everything possible to try to screw it up, and etc., etc…….

All the Bush hatred has sucked the air out of the critical thinking skills of a lot of intelligent people who should know better. It’s pathetic. You just can’t have intelligent debates anymore. It’s as amazing as it is destructive.

Kim Jong Il may be a nutcase, but even he knows better than to trust those clowns in the White House.

(I’m sort of guessing here as to what you’re cryptic post says)

If [Kim Jong Il = "brutal, looneytoon little military dictator"];
Nand [George Bush = "brutal, looneytoon little military dictator"];
Then SysDump Democracy and Western Philosophy;
Else;
Go To Spartan Dark Ages

Lose-lose, if you choose, Neo-Zi’s in November.

Jan

But is the current situation really our fault, or is it the result of really poor decisions made by a series of brutal, looneytoon little military dictators?

If SK can turn out so successful and modern based in part on a relationship with America, why hasn’t NK? I mean, who’s been acting stupid - the US or NK?? Duhhh!