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	<title>Comments on: Dems To Ban All Unofficial Bribes?</title>
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		<title>By: polarity</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/01/04/dems-to-ban-all-unofficial-bribes/comment-page-1/#comment-181968</link>
		<dc:creator>polarity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon people. Get your heads out of your arses. Ethics reform is for all lobby groups except those which put Israeli [and other foreign] interests before ours. 

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http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Major_loophole_in_Democrats_ethics_bill_0109.html 

Though tasked with authoring the legislation, Rules Committee Chair Louise Slaughter (D-NY) said she disagreed with the exemption in an exclusive interview.

&quot;I would&#039;ve done it straight out,&quot; Slaughter said, noting that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the Aspen Institute are exempt from many of its harshest restrictions. 

Slaughter didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t say who, if anyone, had pushed for the exemption. As chair, the New York Democrat was responsible for pulling together the ethics reform package, which was hammered out between members of the Democratic caucus. 

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) declined to comment. 

Washington ethics watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ a nonprofit that has loudly decried Republican ethics scandals and enforcement ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ also declined to comment.

The Aspen Institute, which does not technically employ lobbyists, describes itself as an organization that runs &quot;seminars, policy programs, conferences and leadership development initiatives&quot; intended &quot;to promote nonpartisan inquiry and an appreciation for timeless values.&quot; The group concentrates on a wide range of public policies, but its foreign policy and weapons control arm ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬? known as the &quot;Aspen Strategy Group&quot; ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬? have included high-profile and arguably partisan fellows including Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, former Vice President Al Gore Clinton Secretary of State Madeline Albright, and former New York Times reporter Judith Miller. 

However, the group does pay for members to attend what spokesman Jim Spiegelman described as, ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œintensive, multi-day informational discussions on mostly foreign policy issues, wherein the institute takes ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œmembers of congress together on a trip and focuses on a given subject whether itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s the international environment, or non-proliferation or another [foreign policy] topic.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?

AIPAC, on the other hand, is widely believed to be the most powerful lobbying organization in Washington, and it has used its might, some say, to help end the political careers of several members of congress who had been critical of Israel including Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) and Earl Hilliard (D-AL). It was recently implicated in an espionage scandal involving Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin who was suspected of passing sensitive legislation to Israel through contacts in AIPAC. It has also mobilized millions of dollars to fund non-violent defense technologies and has attempted to disrupt activities of militant groups like Hezbollah and Hamas. 

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Oh, but it&#039;s anti-Semitic to express the desire to put U.S. interests above Israel&#039;s. Dumbass Dumbocrats and Repugniks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon people. Get your heads out of your arses. Ethics reform is for all lobby groups except those which put Israeli [and other foreign] interests before ours. </p>
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<p><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Major_loophole_in_Democrats_ethics_bill_0109.html" >http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Major_loophole_in_Democrats_ethics_bill_0109.html</a> </p>
<p>Though tasked with authoring the legislation, Rules Committee Chair Louise Slaughter (D-NY) said she disagreed with the exemption in an exclusive interview.</p>
<p>&#8220;I would&#8217;ve done it straight out,&#8221; Slaughter said, noting that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the Aspen Institute are exempt from many of its harshest restrictions. </p>
<p>Slaughter didnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t say who, if anyone, had pushed for the exemption. As chair, the New York Democrat was responsible for pulling together the ethics reform package, which was hammered out between members of the Democratic caucus. </p>
<p>Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) declined to comment. </p>
<p>Washington ethics watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ a nonprofit that has loudly decried Republican ethics scandals and enforcement ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬Å“ also declined to comment.</p>
<p>The Aspen Institute, which does not technically employ lobbyists, describes itself as an organization that runs &#8220;seminars, policy programs, conferences and leadership development initiatives&#8221; intended &#8220;to promote nonpartisan inquiry and an appreciation for timeless values.&#8221; The group concentrates on a wide range of public policies, but its foreign policy and weapons control arm ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬? known as the &#8220;Aspen Strategy Group&#8221; ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â‚¬? have included high-profile and arguably partisan fellows including Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, former Vice President Al Gore Clinton Secretary of State Madeline Albright, and former New York Times reporter Judith Miller. </p>
<p>However, the group does pay for members to attend what spokesman Jim Spiegelman described as, ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œintensive, multi-day informational discussions on mostly foreign policy issues, wherein the institute takes ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œmembers of congress together on a trip and focuses on a given subject whether itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s the international environment, or non-proliferation or another [foreign policy] topic.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?</p>
<p>AIPAC, on the other hand, is widely believed to be the most powerful lobbying organization in Washington, and it has used its might, some say, to help end the political careers of several members of congress who had been critical of Israel including Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) and Earl Hilliard (D-AL). It was recently implicated in an espionage scandal involving Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin who was suspected of passing sensitive legislation to Israel through contacts in AIPAC. It has also mobilized millions of dollars to fund non-violent defense technologies and has attempted to disrupt activities of militant groups like Hezbollah and Hamas. </p>
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<p>Oh, but it&#8217;s anti-Semitic to express the desire to put U.S. interests above Israel&#8217;s. Dumbass Dumbocrats and Repugniks.</p>
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		<title>By: Aemon</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/01/04/dems-to-ban-all-unofficial-bribes/comment-page-1/#comment-181649</link>
		<dc:creator>Aemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s amusing about these rules is how transparent they are.  While they won&#039;t allow a lobbyists to buy lunch for an LC making $28,000 a year, that same lobbyist is specifically allowed to pay hundreds of dollars to sit down to breakfast, lunch or dinner with a Member of Congress and his senior staff as long as the money goes to his campaign fund.  Given how campaign funds can be spent on nearly anything, I fail to see the point to the Dems campaign to end junior staffers social interaction with representatives of business and non-profits in their districts. 

(3) The restrictions in subparagraph (1) do not apply to the following: 
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(B) A contribution, as defined in section 301(8) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 431) that is lawfully made under that Act, a lawful contribution for election to a State or local government office, or attendance at a fundraising event sponsored by a political organization described in section 527(e) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s amusing about these rules is how transparent they are.  While they won&#8217;t allow a lobbyists to buy lunch for an LC making $28,000 a year, that same lobbyist is specifically allowed to pay hundreds of dollars to sit down to breakfast, lunch or dinner with a Member of Congress and his senior staff as long as the money goes to his campaign fund.  Given how campaign funds can be spent on nearly anything, I fail to see the point to the Dems campaign to end junior staffers social interaction with representatives of business and non-profits in their districts. </p>
<p>(3) The restrictions in subparagraph (1) do not apply to the following:<br />
&#8230;.<br />
(B) A contribution, as defined in section 301(8) of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 431) that is lawfully made under that Act, a lawful contribution for election to a State or local government office, or attendance at a fundraising event sponsored by a political organization described in section 527(e) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.</p>
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		<title>By: grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately where there is a will there is a way, members of congress want money, lobbyists have it and want to give it away. This does not mean that this legislation is not a good idea, it does close a loophole, but human nature being what it is this wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be the last word on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately where there is a will there is a way, members of congress want money, lobbyists have it and want to give it away. This does not mean that this legislation is not a good idea, it does close a loophole, but human nature being what it is this wonÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t be the last word on the subject.</p>
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