Osama Bin Laden Dead? Just A Rumor

By Justin Gardner | Related entries in Blogging, Media, The War On Terrorism

That’s what Harry Reid speculated on a Las Vegas TV station recently, (video).

Many on the right are crying foul at Reid’s admission, but I’d like to point out this October 11th story from India Daily that speculates the same thing.

So yes, many sarcastic thanks go out to my GOP homies John Fund and some in the Pajamas Mediasphere for using this opportunity to try and lay into a Dem leader instead of Googling: osama bin laden dead in pakistan earthquake.

Well done!

UPDATE:
October 9 from Opinion Bug.

October 11, CBS News speculated too.

Here’s another story on Oct. 12 from News From Russia.

More October 12 speculation, this time from Waleg.

And October 26 from Adnkronos International.

Could Reid have gotten his information/speculation from any one of these sources?

Hmm…


This entry was posted on Wednesday, November 30th, 2005 and is filed under Blogging, Media, The War On Terrorism. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.

19 Responses to “Osama Bin Laden Dead? Just A Rumor”

  1. Noodles Says:

    It does seem odd that people would make this a partisan issue if Harry Reid was only speculating. From those links I’ve read i think the criticism is more along the line that if Harry Reid was given classified Inteligence, then he shouldn’t leak it to the press.

  2. American Crusader Says:

    “So yes, many sarcastic thanks go out to my GOP homies John Fund and some in the Pajamas Mediasphere for using this opportunity to try and lay into a Dem leader instead of Googling: osama bin laden dead in pakistan earthquake.”
    Why would anybody Google what you suggested if they had a already heard Harry Reid’s speculations? Unless of course they thought Harry Reid was an unreliable source which would then make sense to check out his statements. No chance Harry Reid might have a hidden agenda right?

  3. Justin Gardner Says:

    Why would anybody Google what you suggested if they had a already heard Harry Reid’s speculations? Unless of course they thought Harry Reid was an unreliable source which would then make sense to check out his statements. No chance Harry Reid might have a hidden agenda right?

    Are you kidding me? They should Google to cofirm their suspicions before they target speculation by Reid as possibly leaking classified information.

    I thought this went without saying. I guess not.

    And as far as hidden agendas, no, I don’t think Reid had one. This information has been out there for more than a month. He neither confirmed nor denied that info.

    Come on American Crusader…you’re really reaching.

  4. Phillip J. Birmingham Says:

    Are you kidding me? They should Google to cofirm their suspicions before they target speculation by Reid as possibly leaking classified information.

    What I really enjoy is the subtext of the complaints — that if Osama Bin Laden has been dead for almost two months, and the Administration has seen fit to sit on it for all that time, it’s okey-dokey with them!

  5. Phillip J. Birmingham Says:

    I should point out that this insight came from the comments at Balloon Juice, and not from my own brain.

  6. Justin Gardner Says:

    Well, as long as it came from John Cole’s brain, I’ll allow it. ;-)

  7. This&That Says:

    If true, the adminstration could want to keep it quiet due to, you know, the war? There just might be some informational or tactical value in not letting our enemies (that would be the terrorists) knowing all we know.

  8. Scaramonga Says:

    The only way this wasn’t a planned effort on the part of the weasel Reid to undermine the war and the Bush administration is if he just let it slip out accidentally. He is that stupid and he is that incompetent, so it is possible that he’s just being his normal, idiotic self.

    But it that’s not it, then he’s revealed possibly classified intelligence (we don’t know what he’s gotten access to from the spooks) for partisan purposes. If that is ever proved, he should end up in Gitmo.

  9. Justin Gardner Says:

    Scaramonga, did you even read this post before commenting? The information that Reid speculated on has been out on the media FOR MORE THAN A MONTH…

    In other words, Reid did nothing wrong. How are you not seeing this? Are your partisan blinders really that thick?

  10. This&That Says:

    Hmmm.

    Ok. The info is nothing new since it was already out there.

    I wonder what the reaction would be if Bush had said “I heard that Bin Laden was dead?” Mere speculation based on public sources? Probably not.

    Ok, that is the president. An important man. So what about the VP? Any White House offical? What if Frist said it?

    So why is the Senate Leader for the Dem’s automatically assumed to be speculating about public sources when he says he heard this as opposed to drawing upon inside knowledge?

  11. DeanT Says:

    Good googling Justin.

    The criticism of Reid may still stand, per This&That’s arguement above, or if he later admits he was revealing classified info.

    But regardless of that, the failure of blog googlekings to googlecheck their own story is a big slip up. Not in the world at large, but within our little blogosphere.

  12. Justin Gardner Says:

    The criticism of Reid may still stand, per This&That’s arguement above, or if he later admits he was revealing classified info.

    I’ll just make a wild guess right now and say he didn’t, given he hasn’t said anything different then what those news stories and blogs pondered.

  13. This&That Says:

    If Frist had said the same exact thing as Reid I wonder what the reactions (from both sides would be)?

    Again a leader on the Left is automatically assumed to be drawing on public sources; would a leader on the Right have been granted the same assumption here?

    Based on this thread’s comments; I doubt it.

  14. Scaramonga Says:

    Scaramonga, did you even read this post before commenting?

    Sure I did. Are you that naive to think that Reid would make such a statement based on something he heard on TV or the radio? People in and out of the media have been speculating about the fate of bin Laden since 9/11 and that’s not news. What is, is when the leader of the Democrats goes on TV and says he’s “heard” Uncle Binny is dead. Reid has unfettered access to information from groups like the CIA and given their recent penchant for undermining the Bush administration with made-up scandals like the phony Plame thing, it’s not much of a stretch to reason that Reid’s acting the part of a tool – at least. Or he’s just being his usual idiot self. YMMV

  15. Neo Says:

    The other side of this story is that, if true, UBL was struck down by an “act of God”.

    For an organization whose ideology is based on having the “right flavor” of religion, having their head guy struck down by God is a death blow.

    “Allah abandons al Qaeda, UBL smite-thed”

    With the comments of Harry Reid, a blip on the inteligence map, this story will now perk a bit, and perhaps UBL will show himself just to prove that he hasn’t been struck dead by an earthquake, a simple act of God. If he is dead, the earthquake will be blamed on the CIA, Bush and/or the Crusaders.

  16. Callimachus Says:

    If there’s a political angle to this, I imagine it centers on the conspiracy theory that says OBL is dead, the White House knows it, but they’re sitting on the news until the eve of the next election, to give the President’s party a boost. I’m pretty sure the death of bin Laden would be easily spooked out by the change in the chatter among his vast family, harem of wives, inner circle of minions; I hope we’re evesdropping on these folks.

    Reid, then, might be floating up the rumor balloon to try to smoke out the White House, just in case it really has got OBL’s mortal remains in a deep freezer in Bagram somewhere. If so, it’s savvy politics.

    Indian media, by the way, are notoriously certain about things that rarely pan out. I remember reading in March ’03 a breathless and absolutely convincing piece in an Indian paper explaining how the Americans were going to launch their attack on Iraq from the west, from the Jordanian desert.

  17. Justin Gardner Says:

    Indian media, by the way, are notoriously certain about things that rarely pan out. I remember reading in March ‘03 a breathless and absolutely convincing piece in an Indian paper explaining how the Americans were going to launch their attack on Iraq from the west, from the Jordanian desert.

    Fair enough, but again…all we’re talking about is speculation.

  18. Phillip J. Birmingham Says:

    f Frist had said the same exact thing as Reid I wonder what the reactions (from both sides would be)?

    I can’t speak for everyone, but my reaction would be the same: “Hope it’s true.”

  19. Phillip J. Birmingham Says:

    Well, as long as it came from John Cole’s brain, I’ll allow it.

    snort

    It was actually not from him either, and my only contribution to the thread was a bit of physics pedantry.

Leave a Reply


NOTE TO COMMENTERS:


You must ALWAYS fill in the two word CAPTCHA below to submit a comment. And if this is your first time commenting on Donklephant, it will be held in a moderation queue for approval. Please don't resubmit the same comment a couple times. We'll get around to moderating it soon enough.


Also, sometimes even if you've commented before, it may still get placed in a moderation queue and/or sent to the spam folder. If it's just in moderation queue, it'll be published, but it may be deleted if it lands in the spam folder. My apologies if this happens but there are some keywords that push it into the spam folder.


One last note, we will not tolerate comments that disparage people based on age, sex, handicap, race, color, sexual orientation, national origin or ancestry. We reserve the right to delete these comments and ban the people who make them from ever commenting here again.


Thanks for understanding and have a pleasurable commenting experience.


Related Posts: