Ron Paul Raises $5 Million Online?
By Justin Gardner | Related entries in 2008 Election, MoneyThat’s the rumor being floated by Free Market News.
Congressman Ron Paul’s donations have moved up - not by hundreds of thousands - but by millions as a result of his debate performances and groundswell of support on the Internet and in New Hampshire, observers close to the campaign say.Now observers close to the campaign are revealing – with some astonishment – that donations to the campaign in recent weeks have pushed the total up to perhaps $4 or $5 million.
“That’s a huge number at this stage,� says one observer. “That starts to put him in a position where he can compete – state by state, anyway – with the major candidates.�
And this source added, “Of course, it’s hard to tell because the numbers keep changing – and thus nobody at the campaign has a firm count, at least not hour to hour. But the numbers are big. It’s definitely over three, probably over four, and if it hasn’t hit five yet, it will soon.�
On a sidenote, I was at one of Kansas City’s public libraries just a day ago and I saw a “Ron Paul Revolution” bumper sticker on a car. Seems insignificant, but that’s the first sticker I’ve seen for a Republican candidate. To me it’s just another small sign that his supporters are starting to self organize because they feel like they can make a difference. And that’s a very powerful thing in a change election.
FYI.
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June 8th, 2007 at 12:24 am
Thanks for the post. I linked to the $5 million article earlier, but I’m skeptical of that big of a number so soon. I don’t doubt he’s well into the millions by now, but his son recently mentioned in a Bowling Green article that he was around $1.5mil. Regardless, RP can do more with a few million than any other candidate, by far. Not only is he extremely thrifty, his supporters are very dedicated and using the Internet to raise funds and organize in ways that were previously impossible for folks to do. He is still largely unknown to the public. The more folks find out about him the more momentum he seems to be gaining.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:29 am
Just like Ron Paul supporters to start spamming with dollars. Who do they think they are?
(kudos to Rachel)
PAUL’NATION 2008!
June 8th, 2007 at 12:34 am
It’s not just Missouri. I saw a “Ron Paul is Right” bumper sticker in front of me in a small Arkansas town this week. And there I was, thinking I was the only person who thought that way.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:37 am
Just you wait…
June 8th, 2007 at 5:51 am
This is just the beginning - of real, actual CHANGE … I mean, surely they cannot argue that 50 computer nerds living in their parents basement suddenly came up with $5M.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:11 am
I’ve saw my first “Ron Paul” 2008 yard sign a week ago. But, that’s not too surprising, he is my Representative in Congress. Maybe I’ll have to get one of my own yard signs. With over 500 days to the election, that mean I’ll get the most value for my money. Days of “Ron Paul Revolution” per dollar spent.
Go, Ron Paul.
June 8th, 2007 at 7:56 am
Ronpaul is appealing to the die hard libertarians because he is against foreign intervention and blames the american government for inviting terrorism. He represents those 11% of republican voters who think Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks. He is the whacko-libertarian’s “truther” candidate, and he is drawing support from the left sort of how Lieberman drew support from the right.
He will be completely forgotten once the primary is over, he does not appeal to “the base” and he will not have any prominent role in the republican party after the election.
June 8th, 2007 at 8:23 am
Jimmy:
While you are entitled to your opinion, Ron Paul never said America invited the attacks. That’s what your friendly spinners at Fox News tried to turn it into. In Ron Paul’s own words:
“If we think we can go around the world, do whatever we want, and not incite hatred, then we have a problem.”
The CIA and 9/11 comission both back up what Ron Paul has said.
Also, Ron Paul does not only appeal to “die hard liberatians.” There are some Republicans out there who do not want to fund an imperalistic nation - and that’s just what America is turning into, with our soilders stationed in more than 100 countries and people like McCain / Guliaini wanting to “teach” nation building as a standard part of military training.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to go around invading country after country. It’s not worth it. The debt will catch up to us someday.
June 8th, 2007 at 8:31 am
Jimmy the Dhimmi, you are wrong. I think the truther people are pretty whacked myself; I am conservative on the border issue and I am strongly pro-life, as is Ron Paul. I am libertarian on a few things, but more like a Tucker Carlson Republican, I owuld say, since he is the only guy out there I have seen with beliefs similar to my own. Ron Paul is the REAL conservative in the race: look what the GOP has done to spending and ESPECIALLY the border issue! Ron Paul is against tax increases (consistently), for a very secure border, and has an excellent pro-life record. He is not the liberal lunatic some try to make him out to be. You can’t possibly be happy with Rudy McRomney — if you are, you’re no conservative.
June 8th, 2007 at 8:33 am
Perhaps the people who still believe in the Constitution and the promise of freedom given by the founders to be in the minority, yet it remains a powerful message. Dr Paul has actually considered the consequences of foreign intervention and militarialism, and how that affect the perception of other nations and peoples around the world. We armed the mujaheddin to fight the Russians, Saddam to fight the Iranians, and both came back as our enemy. No empire has ever succeeded regardless of its military might. At least Dr Paul recognizes that, and unfortunately stands alone in a field of sound bite opportunists. He’s the one credible candidate who stands firm on principle. No wonder the GOP and the corporate lap dogs who run the media want to marginalize him.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:02 am
You really thing that?
haha, wheres you sources that say he represents the “911 truthers”.
I support Ron Paul and i’m not spammer, also i’m not a 911 truther.
You base some of your accusations on opinion not fact.
Ignorance is all I have to say
June 8th, 2007 at 9:07 am
Jimmy has it all wrong. He never said the word “invited” but that our policies contribute to the causes of terrorism.
I think it is especially important to point out that all of Ron Paul’s fundraising is from individuals and not special interests. Finally there is a candidate that represents the people and will defend the Constitution rather than a puppet for special interests. Of all the candidates, Ron Paul is the only one that is honest and consistent. We need a change, the system is broken, and our opportunity to correct the problems will only happen if we elect Ron Paul. For the first time we can vote for someone who is not more of the same old Washington special interest politics.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:16 am
Jimmy,
You are largely full of crackers. Ron Paul does not support the view that Bush knew about 9/11. It is completely incompatible with his *real* view, which is that US foreign policy abroad, meddling in the affairs of other sovereign nations has caused blowback — people whose lives have been affected in negative ways now have cause to hate us.
Clinton’s continuation of Bush 41’s embargo is the best example. See Madeline Albright on 60 Minutes for a taste of it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK_QshS2EW8). We killed *how many* people over there, and you don’t expect them to be mad? Want revenge?
If this is blowback, as Ron Paul states, then it can’t be an inside job. These are incompatible views. Ron Paul does not, not, NOT hold 9/11 to be an inside job.
If you go to a Ron Paul meetup in your area, chances are you will meet 20-40 people in your group. My group has about 75, and you can usually find over 20 in each meetup. In that group, yes there are truthers, but only about 3 or 4.
I strongly invite you or anyone else to read what he has stated or written about the subject, rather than rely on Fox New’s interpretation. Go to http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/index.php and see under the section marked “The September 11 Attacks”.
And honestly, many truthers don’t support Paul. These people understand exactly what he is saying, and complain that he is NOT saying that 9/11 was an inside job. The growing Ron Paul “base” isn’t saying that either.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:19 am
Who is Ron Paul?
I’ve been following Ron Paul in the news for approximately 2 months trying to decide whether he deserves my support. In those 2 months, I’ve read nothing that supports the 3 assertions Jimmy the Dhimmi made about Ron Paul. I have my own reservations about Ron Paul, but it is exactly his approach to foreign policy and individual liberty that attracts me and others.
The Republican as well as Democratic party do not serve the citizens of this country. The power players in each party are more concerned with political survival and a desire for more power than with listening to their constituents. “The Base” of each party do a disservice to us all by acting as uncritical supporters of the party propaganda. When a person who demonstrates critical thinking based on principles, like Ron Paul, comes along, of course that person is not going to appeal to “the base”. “The Base” is not interested in critical thinking.
Ron Paul is articulating a vision of the US based on the principles of free market capitalism, the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. His faith is not placed in the power of government, but in the power of the individual.
I share that same view and there was a point in history where the Republican party did as well. It is time for us to wake up and take our party back from “the base”.
Cheers,
Tom H.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:26 am
You couldn’t be more wrong. Ron Paul appeals to the 70% of americans who want war ended now, to the millions of americans who believe our liberties have been GROSSLY compromised over the past years, and the MAJORITY of americans who want government to acknowledge it is the problem, not the solution. NONE of the other candidates offer any of this - there simply is no choice except Ron Paul. all of the others are just stooges for the establishment. We need real change in this country… RP is the only guy with the guts to help us bring it about.
As for that “truther” comment - whatever. He’s never said any such thing. However, he has said he is SKEPTICAL of anything the government says, as any good, conservative, INTELLIGENT person should be. I fail to see how that is somehow a “whacko” position.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:35 am
You wrong. Ron Paul represents American who are tired of seeing the Constitution destroyed.
if he has the 11% of the voters that think Bush knew about 911
then you forgot to add the 50% of Republican voters who want the IRS abolished and the Federal Reserve shut down.
Add on those who want to bring home the troops now, and you have the popular vote in a bag.
His new bank role will allow him to get the word out now. One commercial run at the right time will seal his victory.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:38 am
Well, Jimmy, my dear, you are correct on one point: Ron Paul is bridging the political divide. But that bridge is between ALL parties, not just Libertarians – similar to Reagan drawing Reagan Democrats. I am a conservative leaning independent in support of Congressman Paul; I am not a Libertarian. You are, however, incorrect on your other points.
Ron Paul is NOT a “truther�. Congressman Paul has suggested a real investigative committee to answer questions such as “How did our military and our defense systems fail on 9-11� so we can identify the weakness(es) and engage in productive corrective action. The “truther� people latched onto him, not the other way around. And, Congressman Paul does not believe Bush knew about the attacks beforehand.
Congressman Paul has served ten terms as a Republican member of the House of Representatives. If you need assistance with math, the figure takes his service back to the 70s.
Riddle me this: what is so “whacky� about the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, protection of our civil liberties, small federal government and strong state governments, strong fiscal policy, strong national defense, defending our sovereignty, closing our borders to terrorists, supporting small business and the middle class, and returning to the rule of law?
A Paleo-Conservative platform if there ever was one.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:38 am
I support Ron Paul
I am not a 9/11 truther. I am a 41 year old husband and father of 2. I run a successful software company.
I believe in:
-Smaller government
-Lower Taxes
-Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy
-The First Ammendment
I don’t think that makes me a whacko.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:41 am
I won’t say much about Ron Paul - I’m just some random guy who I doubt many of you have ever heard of. I let Dr. Paul’s voting record as a 9 term Republican congressman speak for itself. Check it out, read up on his issues and message yourself, and come to your own conclusions. If you’re interested in learning more and speaking to folks who support the message and Dr. Paul’s campaign, we’re around.
I think Jimmy’s sentiment is sadly quite bogus, but upon looking at the username, I’d say it’s possible that it’s just tongue-in-cheek silliness. Dr. Paul is drawing support from the “left”, sure, and from the “right”, and from plenty of folks who are fed up with one-dimensional right/left politics, too. As far as “the base”, I’m not sure that there is a coherent “base” anymore. If the base supports the Bush, Giuliani, and friends rhetoric camp, then I’d say it excludes the vast majority of US citizens. If the “base” are folks who support things like remaining in Iraq virtually indefinitly, or the recently-defeated amnesty bill, or more ‘business-as-usual’ politics, then I’d peg it as being as insignifigant as Jimmy here pegs Dr. Paul’s campaign.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:45 am
The momentum is truly building. As I explain in my post, “Ron Paul Contributions Up Ten-fold, Approaching $5,000,000″, and the links therein, Ron Paul is taking advantage of phenomenol grassroots support andbecoming a real force to be reckoned with in the GOP primaries.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:45 am
Well, I’ve been a registered Republican for over 30 years. I think one could safely assume that I am part of “the base”. LOL.
Ron Paul represents everything traditional conservatism is all about. Limited constitutional government, individual liberty, fiscal responsibility in government, personal responsibility, and personal privacy. Remember, people?
Go Ron!
June 8th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Jimmy, you just keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:51 am
Sorry - I screwed up the link:
“Ron Paul Contributions Up Ten-fold, Approaching $5,000,000″.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:55 am
Ron Paul has widespread appeal.
His biggest movement is people like me that gave up on federal politics. We realize that special interests and corporations run the election. I re-registers to vote and will have donated the maximum amount allowed assuming Paul stays in long enough for me to afford to do so.
Take immigration policy and securing our borders - Special Interests are preventing the American People from getting what they want
How about spending - anybody like a 10 trillion dollar debt? Me either but how do you fix it when 50% of us pay 96% of income taxes?
Obama was right - there are two america’s. He’swrong on why though. Those that contribute to our society and those that don’t make up America. Politicans keep pandering to those that don’t. They know as long as 50% of us don’t pay for all these programs, spending isn’t a concern. And special interest money will convince enough of the rest of us that increased spending is important and government continues to grow.
Wake up America. Ron Paul is trying to save us from all that!
June 8th, 2007 at 10:09 am
Ron Paul WILL become a household name soon enough. I expect shortly that the mud slinging will start by the other candidates as he is going to require some attention.
Ron Paul epitomizes what the American people are looking for.
Straight talk, sound answers, and a real plan.
Immigration will be dealt with sternly, as it should, and the war in Iraq will be over. His ideals meet both Democrat and Republican viewpoints on many issues, and he alone could help dissolve bipartisan politics.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:16 am
Jimmy - If you are going to attack Ron Paul, at least attack his principles. No one ever says, your Principles are all wrong. No one ever says screw Ron Paul and the Consititution.
I am a Ron Paul volunteer. And yes we are organizing all across the U.S.! We are doing it for our country! We are sacrificing our time and money to restore our country to a constitutional republic. Ron Paul just happens to be the man we can trust to do that job.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:27 am
Jimmy the Dhimmi, typical neo-con. Are you so ignorant to think that our foreign policy and actions across the globe have no effect on terrorists’ view of us? While the responsibility for their actions falls solely on the terrorists’ shoulders, we must discern what instigated their hatred in the first place. The CIA agrees with Ron Paul, and you should too… The reality is that the “they attacked us because they hate freedom” approach is getting old — and people are starting to realize that it’s total bullshit. Your 8-track style of viewing the world will soon not be possible, maybe it’s time to change.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:29 am
Yeah that would TOTALLY suck to have a candidate that actually STANDS for conservative values rather than what todays conservatives ACTUALLY stand for.
Honestly, he’s the only candidate out of ALL of the current pile, both Rep and Dem I even want to vote for.
I feel sorry for the Republican party if a man that stands for ACTUAL conservative values, doesn’t appeal to the “base”. That’s a sure sign, your party has a terminal disease.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:30 am
Jimmy:
I am a 43 year old soccer Mom who does not believe in the conspiracy theory per se. I do agree with Dr Paul that investigations like that should be handled by non-government entities. If there are cover-ups in the reports, it is to mask mistakes and incompetence, not a plot.
I think Ron Paul represents the 70% of Americans who want to bring the troops home, rebuild our defense, and fund our domestic programs instead of sending so much cash abroad. In his words - we have a moral obligation to take care of Americans.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:35 am
Ron Paul is one of those candidates that actually has the record to back up his rhetoric. When other candidates campaign saying they want lower spending and want to cut taxes, but when they get into office they completely forget their campaign promises. Other candidates (G.W) campaign saying that we shouldn’t meddle in foreign affairs, that we should not be the police of the world. And then they go and pre-emptively attack a country that never attacked, threatened or hinted at threatening to attack us.
Ron Paul has voted no for any tax. Ron Paul has never voted for an unbalanced budget. Ron Paul voted against the occupation of Iraq in the first place saying we should follow the Constitution and actually declare war if we’re going to go to war.
To be fair though Rudy Giuliani is campaigning on what he will bring us. He stated during the debates that we should be the police of the world, that we should be training our soldiers on nation building. If that’s what he’s campaigning on, just imagine what he’ll actually do with the power of the presidency. That is the fear that have Republicans flocking away from the neo-cons and to the side of Ron Paul.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:43 am
Ron Paul is our only “Hope for America” so be a part of it. Even Kucinich wants to take away our guns.
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June 8th, 2007 at 10:54 am
Spin Doctors like Jimmy the Dummy tell us that Ron Paul supporters are whacko 9/11 truth nuts, because he doesn’t want you to know that Ron Paul does not believe in the “truthers” and voted to authorize the use of force against the Taliban and UBL in Afghanistan. Jimmy Dummy also doen’t want you to know that Ron Paul is the only true conservative Republican running who wants to get back to the Constitution, no policing the world, low taxes, decreased spending, and no entitlements.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:54 am
James is right. I’m wondering how many self-defined Republican conservatives actually believe in anything, other than more government all the time.
The typical Republican “conservative” these days is one who doesn’t like many, many groups of people, and wants government to rid our society of those whom they dislike. Be it gays, women in power, any brown person, someone smoking pot, they all are denounced as evil and government is called to do something.
Where did the actual Republican conservatives go? Well, they are still there, as witness the many Republicans who realize that Barry Goldwater had it right.
Many actual conservatives sounded the alarm, many years ago. Barry Goldwater famously and aggressively sought to knock back the intrusion into the party of a bunch of bible thumping ignorami, whose only concept of government was one which would poke its’ big nose everywhere.
He once said something like “someone ought to kick Jerry Falwell right in the ass”.
For that he was denounced by the new “conservative”, the one who wants bigger, badder government.
The base of the Republican party, probably, has shrunk down so that only these non-conservative conservatives, the pinheads, actually make up the base…so yeah, someone will get the nomination, and if it is any other than Ron Paul. it’ll be a fear monger…and they’ll run a fear mongering campaign, one pointing at the evil people, the evil ones who don’t believe in Armageddon, who just fail to understand their twisted bible prophesies and their boorish, base obsession with whomever is different than they.
And whomever gets the fear mongering nomination, will become a footnote to history, the one who led the Republican Party to their worst defeat.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:58 am
I agree with James.
And Jimmy, why not post some substance as opposed to unsupported diggs? I’m betting for the same reason it seems no one can respond to Paul’s points during the debates …
He’s right.
June 8th, 2007 at 11:02 am
“He represents those 11% of republican voters who think Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks. ”
That is an outright lie, Ron Paul never said that nor did he say we invited 9/11 as the media has portrayed. He said that 9/11 wqas a result of our foreign policy over the last 50 years in the ME and even the 9/11 commission agreed with him.
June 8th, 2007 at 11:05 am
Ron Paul isn’t perfect but he’s much closer to it than any of the other candidates. He’s screwed though because he’s pushing an end to reliance on the government just as we’re facing an impending recession and growing wealth divide.
He needs to tell people we need shrink government so we can give more money back to the middle class if he wants to win. Wealth redistribution(to people) can coexist with capitalism as long as the government ends subsidies, corporate welfare and bureaucracy.
June 8th, 2007 at 11:05 am
Jimmy, you’re a fool if you think all libertarians are truthers, or if you think all of Ron Paul’s supporters are truthers. IRaq war support is at 80% for Republicans. That leaves Ron Paul 20% all to himself for opposing the war. On top of that, add in people that are PO’ed with the GOP for raising spending (my dad voted Libertarian because he was so mad at them in 2006) and he’s got a good market of voters.
June 8th, 2007 at 11:20 am
Jimmy the Dhimmi - Ron Paul has NEVER said that he blames the US government for 9/11 - he has ALWAYS said the exact opposite. He HAS said that our foreign policy puts us in a position to be attacked. It’s similar to a mugging - you don’t blame the victim for being mugged, do you? You might advise the victim to stop walking down dark alleyways, though. Ron Paul is simply saying that America needs to stop walking down dark alleys, foreign policy-wise.
He has NEVER said that Bush knew about 9/11. He did say, to a conspiracy theorist who approached him a few months ago, that if there was any evidence that 9/11 was an inside job, that he would get to the bottom of it during his presidency. I think that is a pretty reasonable position - to base action on evidence and logical thought.
It bothers me that you attempt to minimize someone who is telling the truth as documented by independent and government study groups as well as the lessons of history. I can’t wrap my mind around people who would rather maintain the status quo than change things for the better. For years, everybody has been complaining about lying, scheming, power-hungry politicians. Now, here comes somebody who sticks to his principles, regardless of how popular they are - tried and true principles which grant the majority of Americans freedom and prosperity - and everybody is up in arms about him, calling him fanatical and a conspiracy nut and saying that he doesn’t see the big picture. Does this make sense to you? Does it make sense to anybody?
June 8th, 2007 at 11:37 am
Jimmy the Dhimmi - Even the name is ad hominem. Dismissed!
June 8th, 2007 at 11:45 am
Actually, you are incorrect Jimmy. Ron Paul never said that he thought the government planned and knew about the attacks and he is not a “truther”– looks like someone has been watching a little too much Fox News. In any case, what he truly said was that the investigation had a lot of cover ups because of the absence of blame on who allowed this tragedy to take place. He also believes that the investigation should be re-opened and looked at objectively in order to cover all the bases and remove the cover-ups. He never said that he was a “truther,” never said that he thought the entire thing was caused by the government– all he wants is a full-scale investigation, is that so bad? “Truthers” like this man because he is their only hope of an investigation, but he in no way ever said he believed such to be the case, and neither do I. Get your facts straight. Plus, regarding this article, the five million is coming from individuals who cant donate more than 2300 each time, so this is a large indication of his large base and die-hard support and I don’t think his message will leave the stage after the primaries even if he does, as he has already affected the debates in a profound way regarding the national id card. This man carries a message of peace, a very strong message in this country now.
June 8th, 2007 at 11:49 am
I usually vote Third Party, but Ron Paul has grabbed my attention for sure.
Anti-War
Pro-Peace
Anti-Corporatism
Anti-Interventionism
Anti-BigGovernment
Anti-Federal Reserve
Pro-Liberty
Pro-Gold backed Currency
Pro-Alternative Energy
and a boatload more
This guy’s addressing a whole ton of issues the other candidates won’t dare touch.
June 8th, 2007 at 11:57 am
>he is against foreign intervention and blames the american government for inviting terrorism.
That’s a nice, typical twisting of what Ron Paul believes. Ron is against a PRE-EMPTIVE military strike, especially one not approved by Congress as The Constitution (remember that “God Damn piece of paper”?) requires. He actually thinks we should go after Bin Laden directly, by hiring private mercenaries to get the job done without thousands of our troops dieing.
As far as us “inviting terrorism”, all he did was simply suggest that our past and current actions have consequences. In todays society, where everything is someone else’s fault, that may be a hard pill for some to swallow. His statement is backed historically and even in the 911 Commision report.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Well Jimmy, we’ll support and vote for whoever we want.
It’s sad you and make “reporters” out there are wasting time telling us he can’t win etc etc yada yada yada. I’m picking a president that “I” think is best for the country, not someone else or the mass media.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
43 comments in several hours on this thread; 63% of MSNBC.com users who viewed the most recent Republican debate believe Ron Paul is the best candidate, with Rudy coming in second at 9% - This isn’t fishy at all.
Its all of the professional polsters like Gallup, Pew, Rasmussen ect who show Ron Paul in the single digits, often below 1% of likely Republican voters, that seems odd. It must be a zionist, neo-con conspiracy to control the press or something
June 8th, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Ron Paul appeals to me because he is the only one who has vision and acknowledges our critical situation in regards to our dying dollar and the national deficit.
He is the only one that can stand against the Federal Reserve and stop this corporate loan sharking of our money.
And I quote:
“The people became accustomed to living beyond their means, and enjoyed the circuses and bread. Financing extravagances by conquering foreign lands seemed a logical alternative to working harder and producing more” - Ron Paul
I have never heard any politician lay out these cards on the table before.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
It’s not fishy at all.
1) Internet-oriented people are more libertarian, so RP polls higher online. I couldn’t take part in one of these “scientific polls” if I wanted to - I don’t have a land line, and if I did, I wouldn’t answer a CallerID as “Unknown” or “Rasmussen Inc” or whatever shows up. Admittedly, lots of those phone-answering old farts vote in both primaries and general elections - somebody’s gotta tell Washington to keep the SS payments coming.
2) As “Seer” mentioned, even if 4/5 of Republicans love the war, that 4/5 split 4 ways (Rudy, McCain, Romney, Other) is 1/5. Ron gets the 1/5 of antiwar all to himself, putting him on par with front runners.
3) Internet polls include Democrats and the disaffected - people who would not be useful in the primaries (unless they get inspired to register Republican), but could be very valuable in the general election (I don’t see a democrat voting for Giuliani ever), so that bumps up RP’s online numbers.
So it doesn’t require a vast unix nerd conspiracy to account for this, just a couple common sense demographic observations. It’s not an overturning of the status quo; however, it is a small but real phenonmenon.
I also wonder (no I’m not a “truther”) how these people all poo-poo the notion that there would be a conspiracy surrounding an event unique in American history that has drastically altered our foreign and domestic policy, yet a couple on-line poll blips and they scream “conspiracy! conspiracy!”
Lighten up, neocons - freedom doesn’t suck as much as you think.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
I went public a few weeks ago here on CHB making an argument that Dr. Ron Paul is/was in fact, a viable candidate for the Republican Party Presidential Nomination.
I sited numerous polls that Dr. Paul had outright won after numerous debates. Now here’s the real milk of politics. Apparently Dr. Paul has one of the fastest growing campaigns according to funds raised. Check this out. It appears that, perhaps Dr. Paul has raised over 4 perhaps 5 million dollars since the debates. If this proves true, it moves Dr. Ron Paul into the top tier.
Dr. Ron Paul could surpass McCain in cash on hand by the next debate and Dr. Paul could raise over 10 million in a few more months. As a former fund raiser, it takes “cash� to play this game.
Apparently Republicans want their Party back. This could be a start of a new Republican Revolution.
June 8th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
He is the only non-interventionist candidate. This is such an important moral issue in light of our criminal invasion of Iraq that I support Paul even though I disagree with almost all his domestic platforms.
The 9-11 truth smear on Paul is proof the media are scared. He just points out the unspeakable truth: our atrocious, interventionist murder in other nations makes us hated.
RON PAUL FOR THE WIN 2008!
June 8th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
JimmyD, you’re a little tiny silly sneaky Sammy. I think you’re clever and silly.
I think inside you realize that it is the dumbest thing in the world to go on a pro-Paul discussion board and act like Paul supporters are just a few crazy tin-foil hatters, RIGHT AFTER READING THAT RON PAUL’s campaign has raised upwards of THREE or FOUR MILLION!
I think you know that, and you’re just trying to make anti-Paul people look stupid.
I’d put money on the fact that Jimmy the D is 100% pro-Paul and is just involved in the Pro-Paul conspiracy to paint the rest of the country as idiots.
I spotted you Jimmy! I can beat you up probably!
June 8th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
I just want to let everyone know that I wrote a “Who is Ron Paul?” letter to the editor of my local newspaper today, and they are going to print it. I live in a non-metro area of my state and the newspaper covers a very large rural area. I urge everyone to write letters to your newspaper editors. (And please don’t use form letters, they don’t like to print those.)
June 8th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
Ron Paul has about as much chance of being our next president as Dennis Kucinich. Which is to say, zero. The bulk of the party views him as kind of strange. Like the weird guy at work who drinks too much coffee.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
TomFromMD: yet, Ron Paul is the only one who can win the White House for the Republicans next year. None of the Republicans at the top so far can do it. If they want to win, they need to choose Dr. Paul.
The rest of the party only looks at him in a weird way because he goes by this document called a “Constitution” that they’ve never heard of nor thought of outside their oaths of office, in which they swear to uphold it. The rest of the time, they like to rip it up and stomp on it when they don’t just completely ignore it.
June 9th, 2007 at 3:55 am
Who IS Ron Paul? They still need to know!!
NOBODY explains Ron Paul
BETTER than Ron Paul himself!
Here is an interactive audio archive of
Ron Paul speeches and interviews as a resource in chronological
order.
http://www.ronpaulaudio.com
The power of mainstream media is well documented right here in this 2003 film.
http://www.ronpaulaudio.com/rpaudio/TheRevolutionWillNotBeTelevised2003.wvx
June 9th, 2007 at 6:21 am
http://www.nhlibertycalendar.org/rpmedia.php
June 9th, 2007 at 8:38 am
Ron Paul says it all when he proclaimed, “I’m not running for president of the Republican party. I’m running for President of the United States”.
June 9th, 2007 at 10:11 am
As much as I hope that it is true, this is just a rumor. If it isn’t true, he will look foolish in mid July.
June 9th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
if anyone doubts Dr. Pauls legitmacy and wider than the main stream reported support, please consider this.
After the California debate, all major networks had polls straming on the newsbar immediately following the debate. You can go to youtube or goog video and find a clip of Hannity lauding Ghouliani, while the poll results are going across the bottom of the screen showing that Paul winning. Funny stuff.
Following the most recent debate, I flipped between CNN, HNN, FOX and MSNBC for about an hour following that debate….what was NOT streaming across the newsbar on ANY of these channels…and why?
its obvious to me!
Go Ron Go
June 10th, 2007 at 4:21 am
Ron Paul is our last hope for our freedoms. Go Ron Paul! I want to be FREE!
June 10th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
The Ron Paul Kansas City Volunteers have the 10th largest Meetup group in the country, out of 266. We’ve seen an incredible surge in membership over the last week with the news that Ron Paul will be in Kansas City on June 15th at the Uptown Theater at 5pm.
You can join this meetup at: http://ronpaul.meetup.com/43
You can participate in our forums at: http://www.ronpaulkc.com
June 10th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Hey TomfromMD,
I just gave that “weirdo” Ron Paul $2,300.
I’m 34 and have never donated money to a political campaign. I didn’t even bother voting in 2004.
$2,300 is a lot of money for me.
I think people are going to be shocked at how much money Paul raises from people like me.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Russell Kirk, the father of american conservatism, wrote, 40 years ago, a sensible text about Ron Paul and his supporters. It’s called Chirping Sectaries:
http://emp.byui.edu/DavisR/202/Libertarians.htm
And if anyone really thinks that Ron Paul is a conservative, just take a look at his ratings. All of them: taxpayers, government contractors, conservatives and liberals interest groups. Then, take your own conclusions.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
How can a guy who has not supported a single free-trade bill can be called a defender of freedom? WHat about my freedom to commerce with anyone i want? How can a guy who wants to go back to the gold standard be trustable? How can a guy that adheres to the loony Rothbard’s thesis on war and peace make me feel safe?
June 13th, 2007 at 2:29 am
Ioana asks:
>How can a guy who has not supported a single free-trade bill can
>be called a defender of freedom? WHat about my freedom to
>commerce with anyone i want?
It is precisely because those bills did not represent free trade. They represented *managed* trade. A free trade bill should only need to be a few lines - maybe a paragraph - in length. These so-called “free trade” bills ran into hundreds of pages, and defer sovereignty to a international governing board.
> How can a guy who wants to go back to the gold standard be trustable?
Because gold can’t be promised into creation. It has to actually exist. From that standpoint, gold is inherently trustworthy. It is only those who come to you with greenbacks and dollars that can default on their promises.
> How can a guy that adheres to the loony Rothbard’s thesis on
> war and peace make me feel safe?
He can’t. Rothbard isn’t about safety; Rothbard is about freedom. Once you have freedom, you can guarantee your own safety. If you are waiting for some politician to make you feel safe, then you will have a long wait, and it will only be an illusion in the end.
Laters
June 19th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
For anyone who wants to plaster America with Ron Paul signs you can get cheap ones on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160128309712
No, I don’t sell them and I just bought some. But I’ve been looking for this and am sure lots of other people are also. Put them up near freeway entrances and lets show our neighbors that ‘We aren’t just the Internet!”
December 6th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Spread the word of the RonPaulBlimp.com It started as a small idea in the RonPaulForums and has grown into a full scale 90% complete project. This is huge and will coincide with the Tea Party even Dec.16. Spread the word to help in contribute. The goal is close to completion for one of the largest Blimps in the world piloted for 100 hours during the month of Dec, and open to keep flying if money keeps comming in. Its going to fly over events like the Super Bowl, and NYC, the Tea Party, and many other rallys and media events. The president of AirShipman.com and turns out to be a huge RP supporter and is cutting us an amazing deal. Anyway research it, spread the word, and help get the Ron Paul Zeppelin in the air traveling across the country