Comments on: Quote Of The Day – Gay Marriage http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:08:28 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: the Word http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-477658 the Word Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:05:29 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-477658 Another possibility...By being blind to the gender and just making the law treat partnerships equally we are following the Constitution and by comparison preferences given to "traditional marriage" are what your side normally calls something they hate social engineering. Maybe the government should not be in the marriage business at all and it should simply be contract law. Another possibility…By being blind to the gender and just making the law treat partnerships equally we are following the Constitution and by comparison preferences given to “traditional marriage” are what your side normally calls something they hate social engineering.

Maybe the government should not be in the marriage business at all and it should simply be contract law.

]]> By: ExiledIndependent http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-477654 ExiledIndependent Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:57:27 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-477654 Draw, nice to see you. I agree that the government should be out of our bedrooms, but this issue isn't about who we sleep with, is it? It's about expanding a cultural and legal status beyond a one man/one woman union. I think we need to be careful about expanding the scope of what the gay marriage movement is: it's a movement to get the government to change marriage law to accommodate an outside-the-mainstream behavior. It's not about civil rights, or about who we are allowed to love, or about who we can go to bed with. As I've said frequently, it is definitely about states rights. One of the great things about our country and our modern world is that each state is different, and states where the will of the people is to make this accommodation, it's happened/is happening. Wow, radically unpopular point of view for this blog. Thickening my skin now.... Draw, nice to see you. I agree that the government should be out of our bedrooms, but this issue isn’t about who we sleep with, is it? It’s about expanding a cultural and legal status beyond a one man/one woman union. I think we need to be careful about expanding the scope of what the gay marriage movement is: it’s a movement to get the government to change marriage law to accommodate an outside-the-mainstream behavior. It’s not about civil rights, or about who we are allowed to love, or about who we can go to bed with.

As I’ve said frequently, it is definitely about states rights. One of the great things about our country and our modern world is that each state is different, and states where the will of the people is to make this accommodation, it’s happened/is happening.

Wow, radically unpopular point of view for this blog. Thickening my skin now….

]]> By: Drawnlines Blog http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-477416 Drawnlines Blog Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:50:52 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-477416 Call me crazy, but both as a gay man and as a conservative I'm proud. I've always thought that being against equal - truly equal - rights for all people is the furthest thing from true Republican principles. If we truly believe that government should be out of our wallets and out of our businesses, then it should be out of our bedrooms too. Right? Call me crazy, but both as a gay man and as a conservative I’m proud.

I’ve always thought that being against equal – truly equal – rights for all people is the furthest thing from true Republican principles. If we truly believe that government should be out of our wallets and out of our businesses, then it should be out of our bedrooms too.

Right?

]]> By: Kyle http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-475509 Kyle Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:26:26 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-475509 If only we all had a gay daughter who influenced our political positions. Good job Dick. You thought about yourself and than back pedaled to save face. I like his style and will be sure to vote Corporaticon when I lose my soul. If only we all had a gay daughter who influenced our political positions. Good job Dick. You thought about yourself and than back pedaled to save face. I like his style and will be sure to vote Corporaticon when I lose my soul.

]]> By: mike mcEachran http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-474246 mike mcEachran Tue, 02 Jun 2009 21:34:17 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-474246 "The question now…when will Obama come around?" I guess that would be whenever one of his daughters comes out of the closet, or when the political winds change, whichever comes first. “The question now…when will Obama come around?”

I guess that would be whenever one of his daughters comes out of the closet, or when the political winds change, whichever comes first.

]]> By: wj http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-474217 wj Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:30:09 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-474217 There is no reason why marriage could not remain a state issue, while having the Federal government simply recognize any marriage legally entered into in one of the states. (Or, as with heterosexual marriages, legally entered into in another country.) In fact, it requires special Federal legislation to NOT recognize such marriages. If marriage is a state issue, there obviously is no occasion for such Federal legislation -- just repeal the special case. There is no reason why marriage could not remain a state issue, while having the Federal government simply recognize any marriage legally entered into in one of the states. (Or, as with heterosexual marriages, legally entered into in another country.) In fact, it requires special Federal legislation to NOT recognize such marriages. If marriage is a state issue, there obviously is no occasion for such Federal legislation — just repeal the special case.

]]> By: Aaron http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-474199 Aaron Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:06:36 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-474199 On the one hand the optimist in me wants to believe that even the oldest neocons can have their perceptions improved upon. On the other, a friend brought up a good point when discussing this. What happens if Gay Marriage remains a state issue for eternity, and never receives federal recognition, providing federal benefits to couples and the like? Cheney states he's for Gay Marriage but says it should remain a state issue. Now this might just be the cynic in me reading too much into the second statement, but it did give me pause for thought. Read into it what you will. On the one hand the optimist in me wants to believe that even the oldest neocons can have their perceptions improved upon.

On the other, a friend brought up a good point when discussing this. What happens if Gay Marriage remains a state issue for eternity, and never receives federal recognition, providing federal benefits to couples and the like?

Cheney states he’s for Gay Marriage but says it should remain a state issue. Now this might just be the cynic in me reading too much into the second statement, but it did give me pause for thought. Read into it what you will.

]]> By: wj http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-474157 wj Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:18:09 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-474157 What I think it mostly demonstrates is that, when it comes to gay marriage, actually knowing someone who is homosexual, and knowing them well, tends to dramatically alter a conservative's (negative) views. What I think it mostly demonstrates is that, when it comes to gay marriage, actually knowing someone who is homosexual, and knowing them well, tends to dramatically alter a conservative’s (negative) views.

]]> By: Gaucho Politico http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-473787 Gaucho Politico Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:15:14 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-473787 this would be more compelling if he wasnt you know...a recent ex vp who was in a position to be more forceful on these issues. Maybe he could have spent a little more time working for this instead of setting up a torture regime. this would be more compelling if he wasnt you know…a recent ex vp who was in a position to be more forceful on these issues. Maybe he could have spent a little more time working for this instead of setting up a torture regime.

]]> By: Tully http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-473743 Tully Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:48:27 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-473743 I never thought I'd ever say this, but...I somewhat agree with Dick Cheney on a social issue. Soap. I need soap. I feel so dirty. I never thought I’d ever say this, but…I somewhat agree with Dick Cheney on a social issue.

Soap. I need soap. I feel so dirty.

]]> By: Chris http://donklephant.com/2009/06/01/quote-of-the-day-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-473604 Chris Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:10:31 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=15023#comment-473604 so that makes dick... not a republican? what a shock. Can we create a new party for him and his cronies? Maybe call it the Corporaticons? so that makes dick… not a republican? what a shock. Can we create a new party for him and his cronies? Maybe call it the Corporaticons?

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