How The Bowing Posts Came To Donklephant

By Justin Gardner | Related entries in Barack, Blogging, Obama

Hey all,

I’ve heard quite a bit of back channel chatter about the last two posts on the blog and I wanted to explain how I was responsible for the topic even showing up here in the first place.

Doug and I are friends on Facebook and he feeds his posts through his profile. I saw the bowing post and we had the following conversation…



As far as John’s post, well, I give everybody the same access to post when I invite them to have an account. That means he can come and go as he pleases. And that policy is my responsibility too. (Although I’d prefer the headlines were less sensationalist than what John wrote, and have told him as much.)

So, not that I want this to turn into a prolonged fight over the protocols of bowing, but if you have an account here to blog…tell us what you think.

In any event, hope this clears up any confusion.

Also, I hope you don’t unsubscribe because of a couple posts rubbed you the wrong way. After all, that’s sort of the point of this site.


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3 Responses to “How The Bowing Posts Came To Donklephant”

  1. Agnostick Says:

    I’m staying. Every court needs a jester–how about a week of dueling fire vomit from John and Doug, as a runoff? ;)

    Agnostick
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  2. milo Says:

    I’m not leaving, but I have my doubts that Doug should have unfettered posting capabilities. And I want to be super-clear that this is not because I disagree with his opinions, it is because I disagree with what he considers important.

    There might be an interesting discussion lurking in here several layers away, on why some people consider this important and others don’t, and how it might be correlated with political affiliation, or education, or religious belief. But posting that this happened is just not interesting. After all, we can agree that it happened – if there’s a discussion to be had it should be around whether there’s any reason to care.

  3. Chris Lanterman Says:

    I’m not sure why this is even an issue, but as a person who was initially skeptical about Obama, this type of thing actually makes me like him more. Bowing can mean two things, acknowledgment that the other person is better than you (generally when bowing to an emperor or person of important, the person does not look directly at the emperor, or turn their back to them), or it could just be a greeting and a sign of respect. The emperor is shaking Obama’s hand, a Western custom, and Obama is bowing to the emperor, a Eastern custom. Even if he is showing ‘deep humility’ towards Japan, I think this is a good thing and will earn us respect. Other countries see us as arrogant and unconcerned with international matters unless it is in our self-interest, perhaps this will get us some goodwill.

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