Ron Paul Probably Won’t Win, But…
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The Washington Times explores how he could shape the tone of the race, much like Howard Dean did…
Commentator Pat Buchanan says Mr. Paul’s effect on the race will depend on the size of the vote he attracts.“If he starts running up 15 percent or 20 percent of the vote in Republican primaries, it says: The GOP is headed in the wrong direction, secure the border, get out of Iraq, come home, America,” Mr. Buchanan told The Washington Times.
Influencing the Republican stance on major issues is the most likely outcome of the Paul candidacy.
“While I am very skeptical that he will win the nomination, historically challengers’ biggest impact has been in shaping the debate â€â€? forcing the more popular candidates to address issues they might like to gloss over,” said Merrill Matthews, resident scholar at the Institute for Policy Innovation in Dallas. “I suspect Paul’s principled opposition to massive government spending and the war could reach out to two different GOP groups â€â€? one large, one not so large â€â€? with the message: ‘You are not alone.’ ”
Mr. Matthews sees a twofold effect for Mr. Paul: “His libertarian bent makes him the most principled of the Republican candidates. The large segment of the conservative base shares his rebellion against the GOP’s willingness to become part of Washington’s big-spending establishment. And as the only antiwar Republican candidate, he may provide a safe harbor to conservatives who are increasingly growing dissatisfied with the war.”
Still, we have yet to see Paul make much of a dent outside of the internet. This 3rd Quarter is absolutely key for him because this is when Dean really started to breakthrough. But Dean had the backing of MoveOn and the liberal bloggers who wanted an anti-war candidate.
Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t see the same thing happening on the GOP side, and certainly not the in right-wing blogosphere. So it’s going to be a tough road for Paul, and he’s going to have to excite a lot of people who don’t usually vote. Dean did it, but again, he had a hell of a lot of help.
Time will tell…
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July 12th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
I dont understand the defeatist slant to this. I dont know where youre getting your information that “he doesnt have much support outside of the internet” This is absolutely untrue. See what happened when Saul Anuzis tried to exclude him from future debates, what happened when the Iowans for Tax Relief tried to exclude him. His supporters consistantly show up with almost twice the numbers as other candidates and with far more passion. Often times his signs and banners are the first to show up in cities. He as more videos on Youtube of meetup groups around various towns around the country than anyone else. There is a definate buzz and excitement around him and he transends party lines. I am a california liberal whos never cared to vote or dontate to anyone, i was disillusioned. Not anymore. He inspires me to tears.
I really dont put much into “official scientific” phone polls. They seem like an ancient vestigial aparatus. We dont know who they are calling or what they are asking. For all we know, Pauls name might show up as “other”
I prefer to think he is a top tier candidate with a very real chance to win. I base that on my observations of the people who support him.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:49 am
I think Ron Paul’s candidacy needs endorsements from key “real” Republicians. Pat Buchanan, Newt Gingrich, and Bob Barr – the leading member of the Libertarian Party. Space these bombshell endorsements out over a couple weeks, and watch the media eat it up. My father doesn’t know too much about Ron Paul, but he loved Buchanan in ‘96, and his endorsement would garner my dad’s vote. Imagine who else it would attract.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:11 am
I have to say I have never heard of this guy, before the ‘08 campaign began. Like everyone else I don’t know what Ron Paul’s chances of winning in ‘08 will be, but I will say that I like him, and I can’t really say that about any of the other candidates right now. For me his appeal comes partly from the fact that all of the other candidates seem to give scripted responces in the debates, and interviews, while Ron Paul’s responces seem to be candid. The other thing that attracted me to him as a presidential candidate. is that after what we’ve been through with the Bush Administration I swore that I’d never give a republican another chance, but than seeing how all of the republican candidates, and pundits attacked him for speaking his mind, and making more since than any of them. He’s winning the tug of war for my vote.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:49 am
So we have moved from “He can’t win, he shouldn’t even be on the stage.” to “He *probably* won’t win, but… He might influence the discussion.”
Hey alright! Movement. And in the right direction too! At this rate we’ll be to “I think he might actually win this.” by December, and “I always knew he could win.” by next Nov.
Also, I see we have moved from “It’s just a few paid spammers spreading astroturf.” to “Ron Paul only has large numbers of supporters on the Internet.”
Also great progress. Then there is the money, and the various good showings in state GOP straw polls. The big turnout in Des Moines
But that is not what excites me about Ron Paul’s chances. What really gives me hope, is seeing the way the co-called “top tier” candidates are self-destructing. Ron Paul doesn’t have to destroy Julie-Annie, Julie-Annie is doing that himself. Same with Romney, and McCain, and Thompson. They are shooting themselves, where it hurts, on a daily basis.
They can talk the talk and they will tell you with great sincerity that they will walk the walk, but the truth is, they haven’t walked that walk for a long time and it shows. Meanwhile, Ron Paul walks that walk every day. It may not be perfect, but it is sooooo much straighter than anyone else in the race.
Telephone polls are a trailing indicator that mainly measure name recognition. As such, they can be moved, over time, by repeated applications of advertising (paid or word-of-mouth.) At this point in their respective election cycles, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were getting only 1% in the polls. (I just barely remember: Jimmy Who?)
All-in-all, things are looking up. Not that we can afford to take a break, we are still a long way from our goal. There is only one thing that will help our candidate now, and that one thing is: hard work.
July 13th, 2007 at 5:43 am
Funny, everyone one I talk to is voting for Ron Paul – Republican, Democrat, Constitution Party, Libertarians and Independents.
I also see that some of the Internet betting sites have closed the odds from 200:1 last month to 15:1 this month
July 13th, 2007 at 6:17 am
I agree with the above commenter. This movement is exploding all over the place, and you will see more and more of the Hannitys and Rush-bots waking up slowly, over time, and realizing 1) any other candidate automatically loses to the Democrats, period, and 2) the Republicans really have been hijacked in a major way, and war (not just this one, but planned ones as well) is NOT in our best interests.
When I heard he was running in January, I got really excited. I never, never expected it to be this big. Never. This tells me we can win this thing, and win it big.
July 13th, 2007 at 6:42 am
GO RON PAUL! GO RON PAUL! GOD BLESS RON PAUL!
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
Ron Paul “Dream On” Video!!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8
Ron Paul “Don’t Tread On Me” Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FG_HuFtP8w8
Ron Paul is a constitutionalist.
Ron has never voted to raise taxes.
Ron has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
Ron has never voted for the Iraq War.
Ron has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
Ron has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
Ron has never voted to raise congressional pay.
Ron has never taken a government-paid junket.
Ron voted against the Patriot Act.
Ron votes against regulating the Internet.
Ron voted against NAFTA and CAFTA.
Ron votes against the United Nations.
Ron votes against the welfare state.
Ron votes against reinstating a military draft.
Ron votes to preserve the constitution.
Ron votes to cut government spending.
Ron votes to lower healthcare costs.
Ron votes to end the war on drugs.
Ron votes to protect civil liberties.
Ron votes to secure our borders with real immigration reform
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
Listen To Ron Paul Speeches: http://www.ronpaulaudio.com
Review over 100 Articles Ron Paul Authored by Subject:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html
How can you not love this guy listen to him he is truly a man who
tells the truth “We The People” are taking our country back and
restoring the original Constitutional Republic and returning Amerika
back to America not the “United States of Surveillance”
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor
moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling
through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor—he speaks in the accents
familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and
he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He
rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly and unknown in the night
to undermine the pillars of a city—he infects the body politic so
that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.
— Cicero: orator, statesman, political theorist, lawyer and
philosopher of Ancient Rome.
“In the time of universal deceit, telling the truth
is a revolutionary act” GEORGE ORWELL
“None are more enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
– Goethe
July 13th, 2007 at 7:06 am
We are spreading so fast, it’s hard to keep up. We need to keep spreading the message. All it takes is for people to hear it and most get hooked. If anyone says he can’t win, simply remind them that he can’t unless they vote for him. I would rather lose with a winner than win with a loser! And we are going to win it too, so we get the best of both!
July 13th, 2007 at 8:28 am
The internet is free and Ron Paul is most popular on the internet because American voters who use the internet are sincerely excited and inspired by his message of getting back to the constitution. What is frustrating to many Ron Paul supporters is that major media either ignors Ron Paul or insults him. Did you see how Fox and MSN took down the polls showing Ron Paul won the debates? And then they accused Ron Paul supporters being “spammers”. They are trying very hard to keep Ron Paul from the American voter. That’s the biggest problem for Ron Paul, and what is uniting his internet supporters.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:18 am
If you like what he stands for, whether or not he is favored to win or not is irrelevant. Who else would you vote for? The Penguin Giuliani is on the verge of being rightfully swiftboated by the firefighters union. McCain has crapped out in a spending frenzy. Romney is the consummate politician.
Its one thing to subjectively try and guess the odds like a bookie, but it is at only a guess at this point, and really what difference does it make. Even if a vote for Ron Paul ultimately turns out to be “symbolic”, just think what a vote for those others would symbolize? Well, cocaine dealing & general mobster behavior, bureaucratic bloat, and a private sector para military guard that accost reporters, respectively.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:23 am
I hate him…many hate him. I hope they keep saying that he can’t win. Sure looks like he has a lot of support though – it seems like it’s spilling over the edges of the internet on to the street. He beat McCain in cash on hand (spam dollars you know) in the very first quarter that he does well in the debates; he wins every major on-line poll for all (3) GOP debates; his website’s first of all the GOP sites for traffic in May; and he’s always been against the war (no flip-flopping there); he’s truly a fiscal conservative; he’s the #1 Republican on MySpace and #3 candidate overall on MySpace (not that that matters); here’s another insignificant stat – he’s added 15,000 NEW subscribers to his YOUTUBE CHANNEL with 2.3 MILLION CHANNEL VIEWS (giving him a 12,000 subscriber LEAD over the next closest candidate, Barack Obama); his name, ‘Ron Paul’ has been the most searched on the internet now for two months – an unheard of phenomena according to Technorati.com. Heck…I’m sure glad the media’s the one that’s really going to be picking our president for us now – and all these articles attempting to minimize him – that’s doing the job in dumbing down the American people. I can only hope that all these queer FREEDOM FREAKS stop sending him money (’cuz if he brings in $5-10 million next quarter we’re all going to have a tough time reasoning that away). And for cripes sake, stop with the RON PAUL REVOLUTION SIGNS, and putting shoe polish on your car windows, and posting on every article that even resembles anything political. Oh no, I think I just gave all those Ron Paul INTERNET TERRORIST an idea…to go to all the articles about the War, Immigration, McCain, Giuliani, etc. on all the major news websites that allow comments (USA Today, Washington Post, etc) and figure out some way to weave Dr. Paul’s unsettling message of Liberty and Freedom into the article. My gosh, if they also start writing letters to the editors of all their home papers, and pass out information door-to-door, and start calling all those Iowan’s in ‘Operation Spooner’ (google it) this could get real ugly. Ron Paul, like the Gambling911.com people say, could actually win this election (I don’t know why they lowered the odds from 200 to 1, down to 15 to 1 in just one short month?) Oh man, the more I think about it, the more I hate him. http://www.IHateRonPaul.com – “…they hate us for our FREEDOMS!”
July 13th, 2007 at 9:28 am
According to the most recent Gallup poll, Ron Paul is holding steady at 0%
Keep up the good work guys!
July 13th, 2007 at 9:29 am
Dr Paul has more supporter than any candidate combined, the reason I say this is because our people are in love with the message. We want liberty and we will do anything to get it back. We dont turn our backs on ron paul, because at the end he is only one of us, we are many with one thing in mind. Liberty, and we will have ron paul as our speaker in the white house. Maybe you should go to the meet up events and the Iowa litle 1,000 people reunion next to you 600 people GOP debate.
Wake up, love your own country, respect your family and kids by putting an honest man in the white house. Dont be a fool, but mostly dont be an idiot and just go with the popular flow, that took us to Bush, remember.
July 13th, 2007 at 9:36 am
I think the scenario is ripe this year for an underdog. Congressional and presidential ratings are at their lowest in decades. People are fed up with the status quo. The other Republican candidates all agree with liberals on key issues such as abortion or border control. Someone with fresh ideas and integrity has a great chance this year.
Ron Paul’s problem is name recognition but all of us believers are trying to solve that. I will be holding signs this weekend at a busy intersection before a baseball game / fireworks show in Tulsa. I think it is very easy to convert people if you can convice them they are not wasting their vote on a second tier candidate. Ron Paul’s issues speak for themselves. It should be noted I’ve gotten too involved into politics but this has been a turning point as our country is losing its sovereignty.
July 13th, 2007 at 11:01 am
If you believe in his platform than vote for it.
It is not a wasted vote, if you believe in it. You would be a hypocrite if you voted for someone else’s message just because you think the other two have a better chance.
The only way we can take our country back is by not treating elections as some sports book event.
“Courage is the power to let go of the familiar.” – Raymond Linquist
July 13th, 2007 at 11:12 am
Ron paul’s message is awakening the deep dormant true American spirit in the people. I know I am tired of being ashamed of our leadership and I think like many american we despratly want a president we can be proud of and one that make us proud to be American again.
America should be known around the world for standing on its priciples even when it is not convienient instead of be known as the land of hipocrasy. If we believe “ALL People are endowed by thier creator with inalianable rights” then how does the base in cuba or the CIA torcher prisons make us look to the world. We should be a country of do as I do not do as I say but dont do!
I want Ron Paul because I want to be proud again!
July 13th, 2007 at 11:57 am
I have been searchig Ron Paul for several weeks now. The amazing thing is that on all the sites (where most people use the same screen name everywhere they go) the names are mostly different. The regulars like me and some others show up, too, of course, but for the most part there are different people on all the different sites blogging about how they think Ron Paul WILL win and arguing that he won’t win only if people who want to vote for him choose not to because they don’t think he can. Why would anyone vote for their second choice? I’m hungry for a burger but I’ll have a hot dog instead even though I have both in my fridge. That’s just dumb.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
At this point in time, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter each only had 1% name recognition. I know I had never heard of either of them.
The media of course then pushed both upon the public.
Ron Paul on the other hand, has taken over Google, YouTube and MySpace, and has followers from years ago, myself one of them. It is still early on and so getting the message out is key.
In my suburban GOP town, I’ve seen one lawn sign for Romney and one for Biden. The rest are over 100 4 x 8 Ron Paul signs spread out all over NH…
That is real support.
Paul will NOT show up in polls when the caller only asks you to vote for Rudy, Mitt or Fred. If you say ‘other’ that is not separately counted for Ron even if you mention his name…
As for what happened at the Iowa ‘blowback’ rally, Paul had 1200 supporters while Failor ended up with 600 for all the others combined.
Failor has since quit the McCain campaign.
Ron has made more money than McCain.
I’d say about half of Ron’s money goes unreported since fans spend their own so it is not part of campaign contributions (take that and shove it George Soros!)
So if you could consider that, I would think it’s closer to $5 M that he’s actually made.
As for sovereignty, check this out about the coming dictatorship:
For those who are still not in understanding of why the globalists are happy you liberals calling yourselves libertarians will support their open borders, here is a great website that explains about one world government, what it is, and who is behind it and how they are implementing it using gaia (earth worship)/global warming, world poverty, terrorism, and even education to scare people emotionally into supporting it….
In Canada, people who tried to get information about it were arrested..
http://www.augustreview.com/issues/globalization/the_global_elite%3a_who_are_they?_200511146/
http://www.augustreview.com/ (Main Page)
The shadow gov’t is now starting to realize that it will NOT be accepted by a large enough number of INFORMED Americans (thank you internet) to cause a problem for them, thus the UN has been diligently working on disarmament of small weapons from the masses.
Welcome to 1984
July 13th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
This morning Bill Bennett had one of the “major candidates, one of the ‘grownups’” on his show, Duncan Hunter. Duncan Hunter? The first thing they asked him was something about the war, and Duncan mentioned Ron Paul’s name…and Bennett’s crew let out a loud, rude guffaw.
I am personally insulted by this kind of behavior from our media, who dare to moan and groan about the “Fairness Doctrine.” Fairness, my foot….
Dr. Bennett, you should be ashamed. When do we get that Ron Paul interview???
July 13th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
The election is 16 months away… Plenty of time to get the word around. So far so good.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
I’m amazed at this bizarre notion that Ron Paul’s greatest hope or aspiration would be to become the next Howard Dean. This is a pathetic and academic comparison; Howard Dean was/is an empty suit, while Ron Paul is all substance. There is absolutely no reason to believe that the trajectory of Ron Paul’s campaign must or should follow Dean’s flash-in-the-pan popularity in any way, shape or form.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
People, I’ve seen this movie before. This is JUST like the Dean campaign, except you’re not registering anything in the polls. And by this time in the election cycle, you should be.
Remember, the primaries are only 6 months away, and it’ll be on you in a heartbeat. This quarter in particular is SO key to your cause and if he doesn’t raise a substanial amount of money, he’s done.
But that certainly doesn’t mean you can’t keep things going and prove the pundits wrong. I think ultimately what you’re going to find is that it’s extremely hard to turn your passions into turn political power. Dean found this out the hard way in Iowa and lost all his momentum in one fell swoop.
So maybe more than anything, study the Dean campaign religiously and make sure you don’t make the same mistakes and incorrect assumptions he did.
July 13th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Translation of this article: The polls vote for us so we might as well just give up and not vote.
That’s basically what Justin Gardner believes, but he just had to take the next step and try to fool others into believing it too. I’m guessing he was a hardcore dean supporter, but then crapped out politically when dean fizzled, and has been bitter ever since. Will you please get over Dean Justin?
July 13th, 2007 at 7:40 pm
I used to think Ron Paul was just a fringe player, so insignificant that I didn’t have an opinion on him, but now I think he is a full on, tin-foil hat wearing douchebag. This is what he said:
July 13th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
I used to think Ron Paul was just a fringe player, so insignificant that I didn’t have an opinion on him, but now I think he is a full on, tin-foil hat wearing douchebag. This is what he said:
Asshole.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
I believe that the support, in polls or contributions, for Dr. Paul divides into two distinct sub-groups:
1) those who generally agree with his extremely libertarian positions,
2) those who are using him to express their unhappiness with the rest of the candidates on offer. In effect, as a substitute for “none of the above.”
Which is the larger of those two is obviously a matter of opinion. Or, more accurately, of personal belief. I’d bet on the latter being larger, but then that reflects my preference for a less intense libertarian philosophy.
Therefore I suspect that his influence, should he actually pick up a significant amount of support whent he primaries come around, will be this: a lot of reconsidering of positions by the existing candidates, and perhaps the appearance of someone new who is both different fromt he rest and less intensely libertarian.
July 14th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Absolutely. Ron Paul is completely correct. We must abandon the 21st century and dive headlong into th 18th. Medicare, Medicaid, AFDC, food stamps, public education, the Department of Education, FDA, OSHA, EPA and anything else not specifically mentioned in the Constitution must be eliminated. Of course the states can take care of it all by themselves because very few people ever cross state lines and nothing important at all has changed since the Constitution was written. Every important change or addition of how our government is run must be determined by Constitutional Amendment or not happen. And most important of all, while the Federal government can’t support a church the states are perfectly free to pass any law they want that they think reflects the will of God and what Jesus would do.
Unfortunately the software does not allow me to add a sarcasm tag to my comments. But in fact what I wrote does express the basics of Ron Paul’s philosophy and what some of his supporters approve of and what others don’t realize it means. I’ve actually read some of his supporters say that while he may believe those things that it doesn’t matter because he is at least realistic enough to know that they won’t happen (The word soon is an unwritten ghost in the statement.). Guess what? I don’t think anyone who really thinks those things has a place at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue anyway. It’s really sad that the U.S. has so many people so ignorant that they think it’s a good idea.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Jimmy, you know the rules. Quit creating trouble just for trouble’s sake.
July 14th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Oh, I’m well over Dean, but that doesn’t prevent me from doing this thing called drawing parallels. It’s this thing that I do when I notice that two things are very similar. And whether you like it or not, Dean and Paul are very similar.
But hey, I think you should go out there and try to get him elected. It’s great that you’re so passionate, I just have some serious doubts that you’ll be able to elect somebody like Paul. If he has any shot at doing anything, he should run on a 3rd party ticket. That’s the only way he can win.
July 14th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Justin,
Be honest. Paul doesn’t stand a chance if all of his beliefs come out into the public arena.
July 15th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Ron Paul’s next hurdle is clear: name recognition. He does not have many people naming him in the old style polls, but he has more supporters who are enthusiastic and energetic than any other candidate. Still most people have not heard of him. Once people find out about him and hear his message, they very frequently join up. No selling or persuasion is necessary or even helpful. Thanks to the internet, anyone can find out everything they need to know on their own. People are more enthusiastic when they discover something that way.
July 15th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
I don’t think anyone who really thinks those things has a place at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue anyway. It’s really sad that the U.S. has so many people so ignorant that they think it’s a good idea.”
Actually I think its a splendid idea. Of course I think the Constitution is still a pretty groovy document.
Besides what did Medicare, Medicaid, AFDC, food stamps, public education, the Department of Education, FDA, OSHA, EPA, ever do for you?
July 17th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
People, I’ve seen this movie before. This is JUST like the Dean campaign
Actually, this is how the Dean Movie ended:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FzCeV0ZFc
YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAH!
So unless you think Paul is in for a similar meltdown, this race could get VERY interesting.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:15 am
I think the biggest difference between Dean and Paul is the message.
Dean was spouting all the usual platitudes that usually motivate Liberals.
Dr. Paul is spouting all the usual platitudes that usually motivate Americans.
The key difference is that Dr. Paul’s message has cross-party appeal.
Many others have expressed this same (or similar) message before, but few were major party. Of those in the major parties that have expressed this message, Dr. Paul is the first to have no serious baggage.
Rudy Julie-Annie cannot win. Once his views on *public funding for abortions* are made clear, his chance of winning any GOP nominations outside of the NYC area is NIL. That he is doing so well in the polls, (supposedly among GOPers without any particular democrat to unify them) should make you think twice about giving that poll any credibility.
McCain cannot win. His views on immigration are simmlpy not compatible with the GOP base at this time. His fundraising and poll problems are but symptoms of the larger issue.
Mitt Romney cannot win. His views on every issue is to take both sides. In the final analysis, you cannot depend on him for anything, he will put policy up for sale (not just for money, but perhaps for prestige, and certainly for power)
Fred Thompson could win if he times it just right, so his past and his policies aren’t given any real scrutiny before the voting begins.
Yes, many GOPers will try to delude themselves with thoughts that Frudy McRompson could beat the democrat in any given race, but only at the cost of having that candidate become even more liberal in the process (although, frankly that’s impossible for some of these guys)
But in the end, I think they will see that Ron Paul can easily defeat Hillary, and stand a very good chance against Obama. It’s going to be a lot of hard work, but we have a lot of people, and they are no strnagers to hard work.
August 10th, 2007 at 10:20 am
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August 19th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
Ron Paul is the kind of man I would be proud to call my president. We haven’t had this kind of honor and integrity in a politician for centuries. He has my vote, and everyone I know is voting for him too!